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Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:11 pm

Ryan Harris wrote:The airplane apparently has some parts from 42-103293. How much I have no idea, but enough to give it some form of identity.

'Instant history' as a warbird-owning friend of mine calls it! :lol:

Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:45 pm

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BTW Trey, that is an absolutely gorgeous shot. What would one have to do to obtain a high quality print?[/quote]

I'll PM you in a bit and we'll work something out, and thanks for the complement. :lol:

Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:09 pm

Yes it is definately "instant history", however the nice thing is that not only do we get another Mustang flying, but it is also a very unique one as well. I'll take it.

Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:32 pm

It's had a change of paint-jobs but it spends time in Jackson Hole, WY and I believe Kissimmee, FL. It's owned by Max Chapman.


Was painted at Sky Harbour last year
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Beautiful Stag, love the razorback models ( not enough flying )

Cheers Dave C

Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:11 pm

I have to say that your highly-polished mirror-finished, modern cockpit dual-control P-51s are all very nice, but back to the subject of the thread, and this is the only currently-flying razorback P-51 representative of a combat example.

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Kermit's is very, very nice indeed, and I had the pleasure of inspecting it close up a couple of years back, but the currectly in-vogue polished mirror-finish does leave it without the all-important 'look' of a combat example.

I'm looking forward to seeing 'Princess Elizabeth' at the Gathering in September - wouldn't it be great if they parked it with 'Moonbeam McSwine' (hint - Vlado :D )

Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:26 am

Mike, how can she representative of a combat example? Her stripes are too neat! :wink:

Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:05 am

Mike wrote:I have to say that your highly-polished mirror-finished, modern cockpit dual-control P-51s are all very nice, but back to the subject of the thread, and this is the only currently-flying razorback P-51 representative of a combat example.
Is there some reason the Planes of Fame P-51A doesn't count?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:39 am

why do you guys always refer to 'birdcage' P-51's as 'razorbacks' ? - it's a term applicable to early P-47's only, but definitely not P-51's.....

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Martin

Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:38 am

bdk wrote:Is there some reason the Planes of Fame P-51A doesn't count?

Second seat, for a start. NAA designed fighters, not airliners! :wink:

Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:05 pm

What about Kermits airplane?

JimH

Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:05 pm

Mike wrote:
bdk wrote:Is there some reason the Planes of Fame P-51A doesn't count?

Second seat, for a start. NAA designed fighters, not airliners! :wink:
Huh? There is no second seat in the Planes of Fame P-51A.

Birdcage

Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:34 pm

Birdcage is for Corsairs, "Razorback" is for Mustangs and Thunderbolts on my side of the planet.

Sparrow

Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:45 pm

I've heard "highbacks" but that doesn't sound nearly as lethal as "razorbacks", which is what I have always heard them called.

Jim

Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:05 am

okay... without going into lengthy discussions.... i am aware of the 'birdcage' term related to F4U's....that's why I put it into 'apostrophes' :?

the term 'razorback' clearly comes from the construction of the fuselage behind the cockpit on earlier P-47 models (those without teardrop canopies)... it somewhen was (wrongly) adopted when discerning earlier P-51's from later (bubble-canopy) versions....

fact is that 'true razorbacks' are P-47's only....

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Martin

Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:48 am

I've got to agree with Martin, the term was coined for the P-47. There is really not much that is "razorbackish" about the spine on the early Mustangs. Still, we'll know what you mean when you say "razorback Mustang". :D
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