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Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:11 pm
Ryan Harris wrote:The airplane apparently has some parts from 42-103293. How much I have no idea, but enough to give it some form of identity.
'Instant history' as a warbird-owning friend of mine calls it!
Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:45 pm
[quote="Ryan Harris"
BTW Trey, that is an absolutely gorgeous shot. What would one have to do to obtain a high quality print?[/quote]
I'll PM you in a bit and we'll work something out, and thanks for the complement.
Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:09 pm
Yes it is definately "instant history", however the nice thing is that not only do we get another Mustang flying, but it is also a very unique one as well. I'll take it.
Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:11 pm
I have to say that your highly-polished mirror-finished, modern cockpit dual-control P-51s are all very nice, but back to the subject of the thread, and this is the only currently-flying razorback P-51 representative of a combat example.
Kermit's is very, very nice indeed, and I had the pleasure of inspecting it close up a couple of years back, but the currectly in-vogue polished mirror-finish does leave it without the all-important 'look' of a combat example.
I'm looking forward to seeing 'Princess Elizabeth' at the Gathering in September - wouldn't it be great if they parked it with 'Moonbeam McSwine' (hint - Vlado

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Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:26 am
Mike, how can she representative of a combat example? Her stripes are too neat!
Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:05 am
Mike wrote:I have to say that your highly-polished mirror-finished, modern cockpit dual-control P-51s are all very nice, but back to the subject of the thread, and this is the only currently-flying razorback P-51 representative of a combat example.
Is there some reason the Planes of Fame P-51A doesn't count?
Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:39 am
why do you guys always refer to 'birdcage' P-51's as 'razorbacks' ? - it's a term applicable to early P-47's only, but definitely not P-51's.....
Martin
Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:38 am
bdk wrote:Is there some reason the Planes of Fame P-51A doesn't count?
Second seat, for a start. NAA designed fighters, not airliners!
Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:05 pm
What about Kermits airplane?
JimH
Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:05 pm
Mike wrote:bdk wrote:Is there some reason the Planes of Fame P-51A doesn't count?
Second seat, for a start. NAA designed fighters, not airliners!

Huh? There is no second seat in the Planes of Fame P-51A.
Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:34 pm
Birdcage is for Corsairs, "Razorback" is for Mustangs and Thunderbolts on my side of the planet.
Sparrow
Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:45 pm
I've heard "highbacks" but that doesn't sound nearly as lethal as "razorbacks", which is what I have always heard them called.
Jim
Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:05 am
okay... without going into lengthy discussions.... i am aware of the 'birdcage' term related to F4U's....that's why I put it into 'apostrophes'
the term 'razorback' clearly comes from the construction of the fuselage behind the cockpit on earlier P-47 models (those without teardrop canopies)... it somewhen was (wrongly) adopted when discerning earlier P-51's from later (bubble-canopy) versions....
fact is that 'true razorbacks' are P-47's only....
see photo below
Martin
Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:48 am
I've got to agree with Martin, the term was coined for the P-47. There is really not much that is "razorbackish" about the spine on the early Mustangs. Still, we'll know what you mean when you say "razorback Mustang".
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