RECENT POST WITH A LINK TO CHINA LAKE RELICS

[lmritger]

A propos of nothing, I figured I'd take a look through Google Maps to see if I could find any Superfortress-esque things laying about... no joy so far, but I did find three P-3 Orions clustered together:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 4&t=h&om=1

Fifteen years from now, will people be clamoring for Orion parts to be released from China Lake?

Lynn

[Scott Rose]

Obviously this is a subject several members are passionate about. I'll let the discussion continue but keep it civil. Anybody making a personal attack will be suspended for a week. And I make the call on wiether it's a personal attack. So let's just all get along and discuss this like adults and not let it degenrate into a flame-war.

[dj51d]

Farrels Ice Cream Parlor, an F-86 with surplus "unsafe for flight" parts sold through China Lakes DRMO crashes and kills/hurts a bunch of people. Navy got sued because they sold unservicable scrap parts to sombody that put them in a flying aircraft resulting in a smoking hole.

The Navy got sued over this accident? That seems to be a stretch on the plaintiff's part. The NTSB report states the probable cause as "OVERROTATION OF ACFT DUE INADEQUATE PLT PROFICIENCY & MISLEADING VISUAL CUES."

[m50a1ontos]

Yes, I was scratching my head over that as well....but according to my scources.....whom I can't name. Next of kin were looking for sombody to blame over "that evil old military jet" crashing... .

[tulsaboy]

On Google Earth, look at 35.40.37N, 117.40.38W.

I think this appears to be the outdoor display at China Lake. Is that the forward fuselage of Here's Hopin in the lower left? Also, are there any other B-29/B-50 airframes in the picture? I'm not good enough at IDing aircraft from the air to tell.

Does anyone know the coordinates that Doc was pulled from? I looked around a little, but didn't find any additional remains. I know that there's at least one fuselage that was burned, and the tail and wing tips were still there a few years ago. Should be able to see it somewhere.

kevin

[rwdfresno]

Farrels Ice Cream Parlor, an F-86 with surplus "unsafe for flight" parts sold through China Lakes DRMO crashes and kills/hurts a bunch of people. Navy got sued because they sold unservicable scrap parts to sombody that put them in a flying aircraft resulting in a smoking hole. I still don't understand why the Navy got sued....sombody was useing fuzzy logic on that one.

Unfortunately, you don't need any evidence, or any logic to file a lawsuit. It doesn't mean you will win, which I would be surprised if they did in that case, but you can pretty much sue anyone for anything unfortunately. They sell CUCVs, cranes, heavy equipment and many other vehicles to the public through DRMO and there is a much greater chance statistically that an automobile could potentially be involved in a fatal crash so the liability issue doesn't really seem to make any sense to me. Also, I have seen many an aircraft part come through DRMO in recent history. I wonder what the difference liability wise is between a bulldozer as opposed to an M114. The fact is that they just rather cut them up than let the public buy them. The same way it is now and has been for the past 50 years with the aircraft.

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[wendovertom]

If you go to aerotrader.net and click on the B-29 project tab you will find that nothing stands between you and a flying B-29 except for funding

Tom P.

[B-29 Super Fort]

If you go to aerotrader.net and click on the B-29 project tab you will find that nothing stands between you and a flying B-29 except for funding

Tom P.

Calling Paul Allen and his Microsoft billions $$$$