This is the place where the majority of the warbird (aircraft that have survived military service) discussions will take place. Specialized forums may be added in the new future
Post a reply

[OLD PICS] C-7 Caribous in Vietnam

Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:01 am

I haven't posted pics from the Kamm Collection in a few weeks, but I've been continuing to scan the Vietnam stuff. Here are eight pics of C-7 Caribous at CRB.

The de Havilland Canada DHC-4 Caribou was a Canadian-designed STOL transport that enjoyed substantial export success, especially with the United States, which bought 159 and used them extensively in Vietnam, initially as the Army CV-2 and later as the USAF C-7. Because of their capabilities they frequently operated close to the fighting and quite a few were lost in combat. They have the most extensive and distinguished combat record of any Canadian designed aircraft. Some are still in service with Australia and Brazil.

The tail number on this aircraft clearly reads "12583" which I interpret as 61-2583, but the Baugher website says that the nearest Caribou serial block started at 61-2591 and this serial should belong to an Atlas missile.
Image

62-4160 survived the conflict and appeared on the US civil register as N800DC. Apparently it is still flying in the Philippines as RP-C2702, hauling fish.
See http://asia-image.com/modules.php?name= ... t=0&pos=48.
Image

62-4177 was shot down near the Cambodian border on Aug. 26, 1968, with the loss of its crew of 3.
Image

62-4182 apparently still exists, registered N60NC to Pen Turbo Aviation of Rio Grande, NJ. Its last reported location was in the Western International AMARC compound near Tucson. The name painted on the nose is "Candy Girl".
Image

This C-7, 62-4189, was hit by ground fire on May 29, 1968 and written off in the ensuing crash, but all passengers and crew survived.
Image

62-4193 was a little easier to track down. It is the C-7 now preserved at the NMUSAF.
Image

63-9750 had an interesting history. Quoting Baugher: "loaned to Air America as 750. Damaged in 1967. Transferred to South Vietnam AF in 1972".
Image

63-9761, again quoting Baugher: "crashed near Pleiku, Vietnam Jul 25, 1968. 2 killed, 2 survived".
Image

Hope you enjoyed them.

August

Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:26 am

The first one is most likely C-7B 62-12583, c/n 144
bill word

Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:30 am

Very cool plane. I was first introduced to the Caribou when I watched the "Kee Bird" documentary.

Does anybody know how many are flying? Where?

Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:56 am

Thanks for posting the pics. Always like seeing pics of that era.

Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:21 am

Whenever I see Vietnam era Caribou pictures I always think of the most unfortunate incident where Caribou 62-4161 was coming in to land when it crossed the path of an outgoing Howitzer round blowing off it's tail.

A shocking picture was taken as it happened and can bee seen here on the C-7A Caribou associations website:
http://www.c-7acaribou.com/album/photos/photo02.htm

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:37 am

Its a fun airplane to fly, but slow, about 135 kts. I flew them for about 650 hours, never more then 1/2 hour per flight. They really fun in a good X wind with all that tail!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:35 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:Very cool plane. I was first introduced to the Caribou when I watched the "Kee Bird" documentary.

Does anybody know how many are flying? Where?


I doubt that anybody really knows, although there are a few Caribou fan websites out there. It is one of those types where you would have to look in a lot of out-of-the-way places to find all the ones still earning their keep.

I'm sure there are quite a few airworthy combat veteran C-7s available out there if anyone thought they would make a cool warbird, which, alas, does not seem to be the case.

August

[OLD PICS] Caribous in Vietnam

Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:00 pm

I rode in a Caribou on one leg of a trip from Phu Bai to Vung Tau in 1968.When I got on the airplane,it was nosed into a 3 sided revetment and looked too close to the front wall of the revetment to squeeze in a tug and towbar.When the crew started the engines,I wondered exactly what they thought that they were doing.That was my introduction to reversible props on piston engines.At the time,I thought that was a very cool feature that added a remarkable flexibility to an airplane,and I still do.

Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:38 pm

Very nice pictures!

20 years ago, back in 1987, I visited San Juan, Puerto Rico, and made some 8mm cine film of an National Guard Caribou there. Some Month ago I converted this to video and put it on the net. Here is it:
http://www.pozefilm.de/video/caribou.wmv

This video can be found within my propliner section here:
http://www.pozefilm.de/propliner.html

Enjoy,
Manfred

Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:10 am

Caribous are still in front line service with the Royal Australian Air Force...


http://www.defence.gov.au/raaf/aircraft/caribou.htm

Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:31 pm

k5083 wrote:I'm sure there are quite a few airworthy combat veteran C-7s available out there if anyone thought they would make a cool warbird, which, alas, does not seem to be the case.


They are indeed out there, I just recently bought one :wink:

Mine is 61-2389, and was used extensively by Air America during the war. Of course being a member of the Air America Foundation, I just had to buy it! Unfortunely she'll never fly again, but we're salvaging the fwd. fuselage and other parts for a static display. I'll be posting pics of the recovery process soon, if you have any pics of "389" please post them!

Trevor

Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:24 am

My stepfather has memories of the 'Bou... not FOND memories, but memories nonetheless. :) He told me he was a passenger aboard an RAAF Caribou which landed well short of the runway on some Thai island. The pilot put the aircraft in the surf right off the beach; as I recall, no one was killed, but it was definitely not a pleasant experience. I found the ID of that aircraft some time ago, but have unfortunately lost it once again.

These are great shots, August, thanks for posting them!

Lynn

Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:26 am

Manfred: Great video. I love it when my picture posts attract first-time posters. Welcome!

Vernicator: Right you are. Below is a pic from 1968 of A4-152 visiting Cam Rahn Bay. I believe this aircraft is still operating with the RAAF!

Trevor: Good on ya! Sorry I don't have any pics of 389 but best of luck with the project.

Image

August

Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:19 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:
Does anybody know how many are flying? Where?


Here's a pic I took of the "Sky Soldiers" C-7 at the Muskegon, MI Air Show last July.
It's a beautiful aircraft and fun to watch fly.
I even got my first Huey ride at the show!

Image

Blue skies,
Jerry

Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:57 am

Hey, that is excellent. I did not know there was a C-7 warbird on the circuit. I would like to see that. Do you know how to get an appearance schedule for it? Its owners seem to update their web site every 3 or 4 years, whether it needs it or not.

August
Post a reply