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 Post subject: USS Alabama article
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm 
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Found the below on Al.com

http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/ ... thispage=2

I remember there was someone that listed the aircraft destroyed. Anyone have any recent pictures?

Thanks Dave in NJ

BATTLESHIP MEMORIAL PARK PLAIN WRECKED
Monday, March 05, 2007
By GEORGE WERNETH
Staff Reporter

When the executive director of Battleship Memorial Park first eyed the damages there from Hurricane Katrina some 18 months ago, he figured the repairs would cost about $1.5 million to $2 million.

That was then, this is now.

"We are approaching $7 million in total repairs," Bill Tunnell, the park's executive director, said in a recent interview.

He said the higher costs were caused, in large part, by the difficulty of straightening the 80 million-pound Battleship USS Alabama from an 8-degree list left by the hurricane.

Also affecting the expense and timeframe of repairs, he said, were shortages of labor and materials as a result of Katrina's widespread devastation in the coastal region.

"We originally thought it would take as long as 30 days and as much as $50,000 to straighten the ship," Tunnell said. But, he said, because of the unusual way Katrina's storm surge affected the World War II battleship, the work required nine months and $2.7 million.

An estimated 12-foot storm surge lifted the 680-foot-long battleship out of the "bowl" it had rested in since the park opened in 1965, Tunnell said.

When the water receded, the Alabama was left listing to port on the side of a sand bank that surrounded the bowl.

The sand had piled up there, he said, as a result of dredging work, which was done to move the battleship into place at the park four decades ago.

The straightening employed a variety of methods, chiefly dredging and high water pressure and air pressure to remove the sand, Tunnell said.

The ship is now back standing tall and, Tunnell said, most of the repairs at the park along the Mobile Bay Causeway are complete. "With the exception of the park's aircraft -- hopefully, we'll be finished by fall," he said.

In addition to the cost of straightening, Tunnell said, another $560,000 was needed to replace the battleship's demolished concrete gangway and to repair a second damaged gangway. Some minor ship-protection-related work remains to be done at a cost of $300,000.

Repairs to the park's 36,000-square-foot Aircraft Pavilion, which housed a dozen or so vintage military aircraft, is costing slightly more than $1 million. "We'll probably have it back open in a couple of weeks," he said.

Prior to Katrina, the park had 24 military aircraft. The hurricane's storm surge destroyed three and dealt major damage to 17 others, Tunnell said.

"Normally we would have had about a dozen aircraft inside the pavilion, but we moved some others inside," before Katrina hit, he said. "The storm surge broke through the whole back wall of the pavilion and shredded the whole back metal wall."

He said the storm crashed the aircraft into each other, causing considerable damage.

Heading up the repairs to the park's aircraft -- which date from World War II to present-day planes -- is longtime employee Mike Thompson, a Vietnam veteran. He said he's been keeping in contact with officials with several military aircraft museums to obtain advice and assistance, including locating needed parts.

Thompson said he and employee Roger Hunter are currently repairing a damaged Air Force F-105 jet. Thompson plans to soon begin work on the park's A-12 Blackbird, a spy plane built in 1960 which flew at altitudes of up to 93,500 feet at three times the speed of sound.

Thompson said it could be three more years before all of the park's aircraft are restored.

The cost of the park's Katrina recovery would have exceeded $7 million if not for the efforts and skills of the park's three dozen employees, Tunnell said.

"If we had to contract out everything our employees did, it would have been a huge expense," he said.

He said the park lost an estimated $750,000 in revenue during the four months it was closed because of Katrina. Before the hurricane, the park drew about 300,000 visitors a year. Although the park remained closed only nine days into 2006, attendance for that year stood well below normal.

"Last year, we had 174,000 visitors. You're talking about a couple of million dollars in operating funds we didn't have," he said.

While the park had insurance, Tunnell said, "state insurance is not covering any damage which is flood-related, and we'll probably get less than $500,000."

He said the park could end up owing a couple of million dollars for repairs after receiving whatever its insurance pays out.

In a worst-case scenario, the park could owe as much as $3.5 million, depending on how much the Federal Emergency Management Agency provides.


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Owen Miller can advise further on which aircraft were destroyed but I believe one of them was the Huey they had.

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 Post subject: I was there today
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Just incredible luck, I was there today.

LOTS of damage.

SR-71 was damaged on the right chime in particular, other dings, damage from cables pulled through tail parts. Had a piece of the Panther tip tank in the right intake.

F-86D Radome broken, front of fuselgae mashed up. Panther canopy broken, L Wing tip tank gone.

Corsair has a large cut in fiselage on right side about 5' vertical. Wings are in Pensacola.

P-51 wings all dented up, alerons and flaps pretty much destroyed, canopy broken, left side of fuselage was all mashed up. Looks really bad.

Kingfisher has wings dented up, cowling all dented up.

Others have various amounts of damage.

If someone can post pics, I'll email them to you Thursday evening.

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I'd be happy to post the pics for you.


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Here's some pictures i took Jan 2006 .

http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/expat0149/?


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Those are some good shots. However, aren't the first 11
taken at NMNA in Pensacola?


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Here is a shot of the Huey after its return to Pensacola for disposition to the scrap yard. Taken about two months ago. photo by John Kerr

<img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r234/JohnMadDogKerr/UH-1B21986EXUSSALABAMA1.jpg">


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oooppppps photo didn't come thru. Here it is.
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Here are the photos that Mark H (P51Mstg) took of the damaged aircraft at the park. Here are a couple of examples, click on the link for the rest of the images.

Here is what Mark commented about the images he took:

The F-17 (??? --F18 prototype), F-14, B52, Phanton, C47 were all undamaged.

THe B25 has some upper glass broken on it (can't see it in the pics), next ro it is an S61 Chopper with broken chin bubbles and a BIG hole in the belly.

The SR71 (YF12 actually) has a lot of damage, mostly to the right chime under the cockpit, about 6 to 8 feet of it. It even has part of the Panther Jet's tip tank in the intake. Also damage to tips of fins and tears in it from cables.

F86D has both sides of fuselage mashed in the front as well as the tail near the exhaust. Corsair has wing panels at Pensacola for repairs and a CUT in the left side of fuselage.

Kingfisher has leading edge damage on the L wing and cowling damage as well as the R Horizontal stab is hurt. Also the pylons holding it on the float are bent (it sits crooked).

F105 damage to L wingtip; L hor stab and belly.

Panther rear fuselage, L tip tank, canopy, etc.

P-51 canopy, both wings, (leading edge on r wing in particular); wing control surfaces., left side of fueslage is mashed pretty badly.

As I was asked to leave the "restricted area" (HEY put some signs out next time!!!!!). The volunteer told me that they were under 12' of water (which means salt water so I hope they did something about that). They also said they could repair them all in house. I know what its like to fix stuff like that and I seriously doubt it.


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This would be a good time for someone to step in and work out some kind of trade deal for that F4U. What a sad, sad specimen. :(

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Thanks for the pics..what a shame. We visited the museum about five weeks before the storm..they had a beautiful facility, and some beautiful aircraft. Hopefully, they'll be able to get them all restored. On a positive note, it looks like the Hornet (YF-17?) has gotten a new paint job.

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I suppose that after they have been under salt water there is no point in further protecting them from the elements?


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