Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:13 pm
Hey Ollie,
Yes, that is indeed a T-28 you see behind the Seafury. Good eye!
here's another picture where it is kinda hidden, but at least you can see more of it. I don't know who owns it, but maybe warbirdregistry.org could help.
Here's a picture of it behind the CMF's Tigermoth at the Chilliwack Flight Fest 2006. It appears to be registred as C-GBKT
Peace,
David
Yes, that is indeed a T-28 you see behind the Seafury. Good eye!
here's another picture where it is kinda hidden, but at least you can see more of it. I don't know who owns it, but maybe warbirdregistry.org could help.
Here's a picture of it behind the CMF's Tigermoth at the Chilliwack Flight Fest 2006. It appears to be registred as C-GBKT
Peace,
David
Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:18 pm
Hey Peter,
On our Tigermoth what you see is a painted (black) styro-foam "cushion" in so that in the event of an abrupt movement the passengers to hurt themselves too bad. I am pretty darn sure it's an after-market mod.
As for the radio in the Tutor. I haven't taken a look at it lately, so I can't remember where the radio bits are missing from. That would be great if you could keep your eyes open for us. Thank you.
Cheers,
David
On our Tigermoth what you see is a painted (black) styro-foam "cushion" in so that in the event of an abrupt movement the passengers to hurt themselves too bad. I am pretty darn sure it's an after-market mod.
As for the radio in the Tutor. I haven't taken a look at it lately, so I can't remember where the radio bits are missing from. That would be great if you could keep your eyes open for us. Thank you.
Cheers,
David
Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:18 am
Wicked, cheers Dave!
Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:17 pm
[quote="daveymac82c"]Hey Peter,
On our Tigermoth what you see is a painted (black) styro-foam "cushion" in so that in the event of an abrupt movement the passengers to hurt themselves too bad. I am pretty darn sure it's an after-market mod.
Hi all,
Thanks for sharing your excellent photographs and news from the this museum.
re: the rubber cushion around the instruments. Whilst I cannot tell from the photographs if this example has an original foam pad or just something to represent it but the such pads were fitted to both cockpits of RCAF DH82C's.
I recall seeing similar pads in other extant DH.82C's. It was one of the obvious differences to the DH.82A.
It is clearly shown in the photo in Putman's 'Canadian Aircraft ...' and in the RCAF's 'Manual of Instructions for the Operation and Maintenance of the Tiger Moth D.H. 82C'.
Part Nos. Front Rubber Pad; DHC 1989-6. Rear Rubber Pad; DHC 1989-7.
Hope this is useful, Tony Broadhurst
On our Tigermoth what you see is a painted (black) styro-foam "cushion" in so that in the event of an abrupt movement the passengers to hurt themselves too bad. I am pretty darn sure it's an after-market mod.
Hi all,
Thanks for sharing your excellent photographs and news from the this museum.
re: the rubber cushion around the instruments. Whilst I cannot tell from the photographs if this example has an original foam pad or just something to represent it but the such pads were fitted to both cockpits of RCAF DH82C's.
I recall seeing similar pads in other extant DH.82C's. It was one of the obvious differences to the DH.82A.
It is clearly shown in the photo in Putman's 'Canadian Aircraft ...' and in the RCAF's 'Manual of Instructions for the Operation and Maintenance of the Tiger Moth D.H. 82C'.
Part Nos. Front Rubber Pad; DHC 1989-6. Rear Rubber Pad; DHC 1989-7.
Hope this is useful, Tony Broadhurst
Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:31 pm
I wasn't totally sure if the foam pads in the moth cockpits were too wide-spread in the C models, but I have noticed a few with it. As our Moth was originally restored in the 80's it may have been part of extended consideration for safety. Then again, they remained when we re-restored it in the late 1990's (Can't remember the exact date).
Besides the foam pads in the cockpit, the DH-82C also differed from the DH82A/B in that it had a tailwheel, brakes, a canopy (obvious feature), and apparently the main gear were built in a slightly different position (for or aft, can't remember)... but apparently that may cause it to look slightly different from the earlier models.
And thank you for the compliments. I want to eventually go to our (The CMF's) storage barn and take some pictures of our little collection of non-displayed airframes. They might interest all you guys. If you are interested I'll try and arrange it. May take a while though.
Cheers,
David
Besides the foam pads in the cockpit, the DH-82C also differed from the DH82A/B in that it had a tailwheel, brakes, a canopy (obvious feature), and apparently the main gear were built in a slightly different position (for or aft, can't remember)... but apparently that may cause it to look slightly different from the earlier models.
And thank you for the compliments. I want to eventually go to our (The CMF's) storage barn and take some pictures of our little collection of non-displayed airframes. They might interest all you guys. If you are interested I'll try and arrange it. May take a while though.
Cheers,
David
Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:21 am
Hi David,
Thanks for a fascinating insight to the collection, a great little museum, with a big museum's worth of aircraft.
I visited (for the second time) with my wife's parents and they were all impressed with the effort you'd gone to with the set-up considering the space restrictions.
I'd be very interested to see what you've got of the Supermarine Stranraer wreckage; as I'm sure you know, CF-BXO is the last (complete) survivor in the RAF Museum, Hendon, and then your museum has the largest remaining chunk.
I was also very appreciative of your 'gossamer Lysander'; very useful for some of the illustrative photos in our Lysander book (a complimentary copy of which should be in your library).
Our Walrus & Stranraer book.
Our Lysander book.
Cheers
James
Thanks for a fascinating insight to the collection, a great little museum, with a big museum's worth of aircraft.
I visited (for the second time) with my wife's parents and they were all impressed with the effort you'd gone to with the set-up considering the space restrictions.
daveymac82c wrote:And thank you for the compliments. I want to eventually go to our (The CMF's) storage barn and take some pictures of our little collection of non-displayed airframes. They might interest all you guys. If you are interested I'll try and arrange it. May take a while though.
I'd be very interested to see what you've got of the Supermarine Stranraer wreckage; as I'm sure you know, CF-BXO is the last (complete) survivor in the RAF Museum, Hendon, and then your museum has the largest remaining chunk.
I was also very appreciative of your 'gossamer Lysander'; very useful for some of the illustrative photos in our Lysander book (a complimentary copy of which should be in your library).
Our Walrus & Stranraer book.
Our Lysander book.
Cheers
James
Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:17 am
Hi James,
Thanks again. Yes, I think our museum does a pretty good job of showing as much as we can considering our space restrictions. I tell ya, the ballet of taking the planes out and putting them back in is quite a site to see. Especially with all the overlapping wings and tailfeathers and props.
About the Stranraer... It was on display when our museum was still located in Crescent Beach (Surrey), BC. But with the move it was put in storage. Not the kind of happy storage you'd hope for though. It was kept outside, but at least in a somewhat safe place. Now from my understanding, the Stranraer is at our last founding member/lifetime directors property near Pender Harbour, BC. Apparently he took it back (as he originally recovered the wreckage) because he wasn't happy with the way it was being stored. What remains of the airframe is a very intact section of fuselage that starts from just behind the wings. All the tail feathers are in decent looking condition but obviously stripped of their fabric. We also have the spars of both wings (I think), and both engines, but the nose section is missing. I'd have to say that our Hampden was in just as rough shape as the Stranny is today, and look at what we (Fred and company) were able to do.
As for the Lysander... I'm glad that you like how we put the Lizzie together. I was 3 or 4 years old when the restoration was done. It was restored on request from the organizers of the World Exposition in Vancouver in 1986 (Expo '86). They wanted an airplane that would help show the inner workings of an airplane and the Lysander was chosen. Since our total lack of space at Langley, we've been limited to only having one wing on the Lysander. If we move, or get a new building I hope that we'll finally have the room to be able to get both wings on her again.
I'll have to check our library for your book. We've got quite a large library, but it is quite organized, so finding it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Cheers,
David
Thanks again. Yes, I think our museum does a pretty good job of showing as much as we can considering our space restrictions. I tell ya, the ballet of taking the planes out and putting them back in is quite a site to see. Especially with all the overlapping wings and tailfeathers and props.
About the Stranraer... It was on display when our museum was still located in Crescent Beach (Surrey), BC. But with the move it was put in storage. Not the kind of happy storage you'd hope for though. It was kept outside, but at least in a somewhat safe place. Now from my understanding, the Stranraer is at our last founding member/lifetime directors property near Pender Harbour, BC. Apparently he took it back (as he originally recovered the wreckage) because he wasn't happy with the way it was being stored. What remains of the airframe is a very intact section of fuselage that starts from just behind the wings. All the tail feathers are in decent looking condition but obviously stripped of their fabric. We also have the spars of both wings (I think), and both engines, but the nose section is missing. I'd have to say that our Hampden was in just as rough shape as the Stranny is today, and look at what we (Fred and company) were able to do.
As for the Lysander... I'm glad that you like how we put the Lizzie together. I was 3 or 4 years old when the restoration was done. It was restored on request from the organizers of the World Exposition in Vancouver in 1986 (Expo '86). They wanted an airplane that would help show the inner workings of an airplane and the Lysander was chosen. Since our total lack of space at Langley, we've been limited to only having one wing on the Lysander. If we move, or get a new building I hope that we'll finally have the room to be able to get both wings on her again.
I'll have to check our library for your book. We've got quite a large library, but it is quite organized, so finding it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Cheers,
David
Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:23 am
daveymac82c wrote:I'll have to check our library for your book. We've got quite a large library, but it is quite organized, so finding it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
That would be good. If you find it, let me know what you think of it. If you don't, let me know, and we'll sort another copy.
I'd be interested in any good quality photos of the Stranny remains and an assessment, as you've provided, of the wreckage, for any second edition of the Walrus & Stranraer book.
I agree it sounds like a reconstruction of the Stranny would be possible as the Hampden was, but it'd be another (bigger) challenging undertaking. Canada needs a Stranny though, while I've no problem with Hendon having CF-BXO in safe hands. You'd certainly need a bigger hangar!
Cheers
Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:57 am
According to Transport Canada the T-28 is an "A" model, #51-7812 and is registered to Delta warbirds Aviation in delta British Columbia.
Jeff
Jeff
Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:31 am
According to Transport Canada the T-28 is an "A" model, #51-7812 and is registered to Delta warbirds Aviation in delta British Columbia.
Delta Warbirds Aviation, and the T-28, is owned by Graham Dolynuk, who is an pilot for Air Canada.
-WC
Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:39 am
Hey Dave, does your museum have a membership program?
Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:52 pm
Hey Mustangdriver (and anyone else interested),
we certainly do have a membership program. Nothing like any exciting museums that have different levels of memberships but...
The membership entitles our member to:
1.) Free admission to the museum plus admission of one non-member
2.) Our membership can be used to enter the Seattle Air Museum for free
3.) Members' flying days (for a small donation, getting to fly in one of our airworthy airplanes or that of our members).
4.) A quarterly published newsletter (available in printed black & White, or online as a colour PDF)
5.) A discount at our gift-shop
6.) Access to our aviation library and photo archives
7.) Invitations to our quarterly dinners and other special events
I usually get my membership renewed AT the museum, so I'm not sure how it works to sign up over the phone or via the internet.
Give our office a call if you're interested. 604-532-0035
Thank you for your interest.
Cheers,
David
we certainly do have a membership program. Nothing like any exciting museums that have different levels of memberships but...
The membership entitles our member to:
1.) Free admission to the museum plus admission of one non-member
2.) Our membership can be used to enter the Seattle Air Museum for free
3.) Members' flying days (for a small donation, getting to fly in one of our airworthy airplanes or that of our members).
4.) A quarterly published newsletter (available in printed black & White, or online as a colour PDF)
5.) A discount at our gift-shop
6.) Access to our aviation library and photo archives
7.) Invitations to our quarterly dinners and other special events
I usually get my membership renewed AT the museum, so I'm not sure how it works to sign up over the phone or via the internet.
Give our office a call if you're interested. 604-532-0035
Thank you for your interest.
Cheers,
David
Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:29 am
Dave
Glad to hear that the Fleet Finch rebuild is going well.
I own Fleet Finch 16R CFDAF .
Last year , one of your people Chris Ryan contacted me and I provided many pictures of areas of my a/c to assist with the rebuild.
Two of yours guys were nice enough to look me up while in Ontario and present me with a nice shirt depicting a picture of your Fleet on it as a thank you.
You guys are a class group
Keep'em Flying
Cam
Glad to hear that the Fleet Finch rebuild is going well.
I own Fleet Finch 16R CFDAF .
Last year , one of your people Chris Ryan contacted me and I provided many pictures of areas of my a/c to assist with the rebuild.
Two of yours guys were nice enough to look me up while in Ontario and present me with a nice shirt depicting a picture of your Fleet on it as a thank you.
You guys are a class group
Keep'em Flying
Cam
Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:43 pm
Hi Cam,
honestly, I had no idea that you helped us out with out Finch. Had I known, I would have thanked you long ago. So, thank you.
Chris Ryan is a very good guy and I'm glad that our museum has him as member.
I also had no idea that a couple of our members presented you a shirt while they were out your way. Indeed that is classy. I knew our membership was awesome, but that is really going out of their way.
I'm glad that you had a good experience dealing with out museum!
If you ever come out this way, I'd be more than happy to give you a tour of our museum.
Thanks again for the kind words and for helping us with our Fleet Finch.
Cheers,
David
honestly, I had no idea that you helped us out with out Finch. Had I known, I would have thanked you long ago. So, thank you.
Chris Ryan is a very good guy and I'm glad that our museum has him as member.
I also had no idea that a couple of our members presented you a shirt while they were out your way. Indeed that is classy. I knew our membership was awesome, but that is really going out of their way.
I'm glad that you had a good experience dealing with out museum!
If you ever come out this way, I'd be more than happy to give you a tour of our museum.
Thanks again for the kind words and for helping us with our Fleet Finch.
Cheers,
David
Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:46 pm
Dave
My pleasure.
Give my regards to Chris.
Keep'em Flying
Cam
My pleasure.
Give my regards to Chris.
Keep'em Flying
Cam