He-111s

[Mike]

Isn't there still an original He-111 with the RAF Hendon Museum? I seem to recall I have pictures of it when I visited back in the 80's when the museum was still in the original location.

There is. If you follow the link that I posted above, there is a listing of all surviving examples, both German and Spanish-built.

I'm not sure what you mean about the RAF Museum being 'in the original location' - it hasn't moved!

[Connery]

I thought that I had read some time back that they had moved the museum to a more modern facility. Guess not. I just know that the entrance to the Museum didn't look anything like it does in the picture on the website back in 1989. There was also a a Shorts Sunderland sitting out front one time I visited and I think a Shorts Sterling on another trip.

The first trip was back in 1979 on our way back to the US after we left Iran just before the Embassy was taken over, and the second trip was in 1989 when I was stationed at RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire. Back in '79 we road the Tube to the station nearby and walked to the museum that was surrounded by countryside. In '89 London had expanded to surround the museum, the little town seemed to have disappeared, to be replaced by a large industrial district and the polich training academy.

[JDK]

I thought that I had read some time back that they had moved the museum to a more modern facility. Guess not.

The RAF Museum opened in 1972, with a new surrounding to W.W.I era Belfast Truss hangars. Since then, it had the Battle of Britain hall added, acrross the other side of the car park (into which went the Short Sunderland) and the Bomber Command Hall, attached to the back of the original building. Much more recently they added the 'Milestones of Flight' hall, and the relocated W.W.I era Grahame White Factory building. You can see it all here: http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/plan ... e_plan.cfm

I just know that the entrance to the Museum didn't look anything like it does in the picture on the website back in 1989. There was also a a Shorts Sunderland sitting out front one time I visited and I think a Shorts Sterling on another trip.

Sunderland I've mentioned. It would be great if they had a Stirling; but they haven't - it's an extinct type, apart from an underwater wreck. You are probably thinking of the RAF's Blackburn Beverly (a four engine post-war transport, rather than a four engine W.W.II bomber) which was scrapped due to advanced corrosion, due to RAF neglect (before it was dumped, rotten, on the museum). They've changed the museum's entrance to the Milestones building, so you are right that the entrance looks different!

The first trip was back in 1979 on our way back to the US after we left Iran just before the Embassy was taken over, and the second trip was in 1989 when I was stationed at RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire. Back in '79 we road the Tube to the station nearby and walked to the museum that was surrounded by countryside. In '89 London had expanded to surround the museum, the little town seemed to have disappeared, to be replaced by a large industrial district and the polich training academy.

The Metropolitan Police Training centre has been at Hendon almost as long as the RAF Museum, opening in 1974, but the housing expansion and industrialisation, is a fair comment, although the growth mostly occurred earlier - except the loss of the Hendon airfield in the 1990s.

You may also have confused the 'relocation' idea because of the RAF Museum's second location at RAF Cosford; which has just had the cold war exhibition open this year. Aircraft have been moved between the locations, but the museum itserlf has never 'relocated' as such.

Hope that clears it up, and if you know where the Stirling is, we'd love to hear too...

[HOLLOWAYRANGER]

Oh for a stirling! the Grand daddy of bomber command still dream of them finding one intact in a lake somewhere!

[Connery]

Thanks for the update James, much appreciated.

The reason I mentioned the Sterling is that is what came to mind. I seem to remember as a child thinking that the four engined plane that was sitting out front when I visited in '79 looked like it was missing the lower half of it's fuselage.

[Warbird Kid]

I still dream about seeing a German equivalent, to the BoB flight.

The 'German' side of the BoB!

3 CASA HE-111'S (fish em out of small museums, or maybe somewhere in Spain?)
7 HA-109'S (Or they would be converted back to Me-109 and Bf-109 status)
1 JU-52 (gotta have a work horse/cargo plane!)
2 JU-87'S (Replica's?) (maybe full size replicas

[Fouga23]

I still dream about seeing a German equivalent, to the BoB flight.

The 'German' side of the BoB!

3 CASA HE-111'S (fish em out of small museums, or maybe somewhere in Spain?)
7 HA-109'S (Or they would be converted back to Me-109 and Bf-109 status)
1 JU-52 (gotta have a work horse/cargo plane!)
2 JU-87'S (Replica's?) (maybe full size replicas

Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. Best shot is the Me Foundation

[JohnH]

The Cavanaugh airplane was owned by David Tallichet and was running in 1991 at Forbes Field, I saw video of it taken by Dave's crew. I can't remember if it flew down to Cavanaugh's.

JH

[DCogdon1]

The Cavanaugh airplane was owned by David Tallichet and was running in 1991 at Forbes Field, I saw video of it taken by Dave's crew. I can't remember if it flew down to Cavanaugh's.

JH

Something tells me that it did - and that they had to land every so often to top up the oil and change the plugs.

[Wind, Sand and Stars]

Hello at all,

I never post because I have a VERY bad english but I have 2 picture for you (I have made at Duxford in September 2006) of the Casa111 stored near a Concorde Olympus engine.

[Warbird Kid]

Wow very cool!

Thanks for the pics!

[Warbird Kid]

Wow very cool!

Thanks for the pics!

[Warbird Kid]

Wow very cool!

Thanks for the pics!

[Bill Greenwood]

Wind, Sand, Stars You don't have to have good English to post. A lot of us speak Texan which is related to English. It is great to have input from other parts of the world.

[Jase]

I agree with Bill. Forgotten Field posts, and he's from Baltimore fer gosh sakes....

Wind Sand Stars, thanks for the post. Please post more interesting pictures (any of the Super Connie?)!!