Warbird Information Exchange

The C-130 was a stand in for an Emily. Not even close!

Some of these are really great. I can forgive a movie like Pearl harbor for wrong colored zeros and Iron eagle as it was not intended to be a historical based movie. But some of theothers are funny.

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Chris Henry
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I can't remember exactly but didn't they use T-6s as P-51s in "Kelly's Heros"?

"Kelly's Heroes" used Yugoslavian aircraft. I can't remember the name of them off hand, but I think they were Soko's or something like that. They look sort-of like t-6's.
Jerry

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Henry Fonda flying in an L-19, shutting down the engine to hear the tanks while flying in IMC, then crashing, the wreckage being a real L-1.

Real L-5's of the 14th Liaison Squadron and others flew all during the Bulge, and I'm glad they captured the idea in the movie as they were pretty important for determining the extent of the German effort and more important in telling units where to stop to not kill friendlies. But nobody I have spoken to yet has given up the secret technique of shutting down the engine to hear tanks...

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ISTR reading that in "Fate is the Hunter", they did not want an aircraft that looked like a 'real' airliner. Also, in "The Aviator", I belive a Tora Kate was modified to look like the Hughes Racer. I think also in the Howard Hughes movie back in the '70s, starring Tommy Lee Jones, they used a Kate as the racer. When showing Hughes' XF-11 flight & crash, a P-38 is shown in flight followed by him being crashed in a P-51D cockpit. For you guys bashing movies like Blue Thunder & Airwolf & the like, you gotta remember they weren't INTENDED to be accuarate, they were entertainment. "Black Sheep Squadron" had its share of flubs. I remember a dogfight scene where "Battle of Britain" footage was inserted. While not a movie, for something 'supposedly' dedicated to history, The History Channel is one of the biggest screw-ups around. Last night I learned that the XB-36 was powered by turboprops & for months they were selling a video on the XP-70 (XB-70)! Don't forget in "Airplane", the 707 is seen, but a prop airliner is heard. IMHO, there's a big difference between accuracy & being funny or just plain 'entertaining' & also using what ever's available as a stand in, especially if it's somewhat accurate. BTW, wasn't the O-47 used in the original "Flight of the Phoenix"?

Ive always wondered about the Flight of the Phoenix. It looks like th outline and tail of AD1 Skyraider from a distance.

How about the Germans flying a French Alouette II helicopter in the WWII movie "Where eagles dare"!

Yes, but the prop sound on the 707 was intentional. They were playing on the fact that one of the movies which 'Airplane' was based off of took place aboard a DC-7. I'm not sure you can call it inaccurate, funny, entertaining, or use of available stand-in when the movie's creators used the sound intentionally, knowing that it wasn't accurate.

One thing to remember about the B222 used for Airwolf- it was based upon a real Bell proposal for an armed variant of the B222, including the "folding" guns (which were .50" Brownings, not 20mm cannon although I think that the series called them 20mm cannon). The under-belly rocket launcher would have used LAW-type munitions of the 40-70mm variety and would have been unguided.

Sadly, the aircraft was demodified after the series and crashed about 10 years ago in Germany while serving as a rescue helicopter.

Glenn Miller story with Jimmy Stewart?

It was "The High and The Mighty" 1954.

The scene in "The Hunt For Red October" when the Tomcat is coming in to for a crash landing and they cut to the footage of an F9F Panther crashing into the deck has always puzzled me some. They could have just faked it or not even done it. But, it served its purpose of heightening the drama a bit.

Bat 21....the plane was just a stock civilian Skymaster with badly done paint job and Stars and Bars in the wrong place...they didn't even try to add the military antennas to make it seem authentic.........at least in Tora Tora Tora they tried to build planes that replicated the Japanese a/c.

In "A Bridge Too Far" they modified some Harvards to represent P-47s, by adding a "razorback" on the fuselage, new canopies, wing guns, and bombracks. I saw a magazine article that refered to them as "Thunderharvards."

As for mismatched sound effects, I remember watching a TV show once (I think it may have been "The A-Team") that showed a C-130 starting up. There was a closeup of the engine, and as the prop began to turn, they dubbed in the unmistakable sound of a radial cranking over.