Il-76 in Canada- if first you don't succeed...
Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:33 pm
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/927-full.html#195840
It was a testament to the ruggedness of the IL-76, but we’ll let others decide what it says about the crew flying it. According to a Transport Canada incident report published by Canadian Defence and Geopolitics, the Silk Way Airways plane was headed for Canadian Forces Base in Trenton, Ontario, in early June when it encountered poor visibility (half mile in fog, vertical visibility 500 feet, RVR 600, temperature and dew point 12 degrees Celsius) at the military base. The crew elected to try an instrument approach. The massive plane, loaded with military hardware from the Canadian Forces operation in Afghanistan, hit a perimeter fence, taking out 150 feet of it, touched down briefly 430 feet short of the runway and then managed to climb out, trailing part of the fence from its landing gear and peppered with damage to its belly. However, that wasn’t enough to prompt the crew to declare an emergency. According to the report, the crew climbed the airplane, still trailing barbed wire, to 3,000 feet and entered a hold for an hour. They then decided to divert to fog-free Ottawa, about 100 nm away. Ottawa officials were notified that the airplane had hit a fence and rolled emergency gear for the landing. The IL-76 landed uneventfully and went directly to an FBO. There, with help from the emergency workers, the crew untangled the barbed wire and took off again for Trenton, where the cargo was unloaded. In Trenton, it was revealed the aircraft had "substantial damage" and the events were classified by the Transportation Safety Board as an accident rather than an incident.
Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:07 pm
There are some great sites at both ends of the CFB Trenton runway to hang out and watch air ops. Note to self... get they heck out of there when the fog moves in!!!! 
Mike
Mike
Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:42 pm
Give the Russians credit - they build a tough undercarriage!
Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:23 pm
Massive transport aircraft clips fence
By Luke Hendry
Friday, May 11, 2007 - 10:00
Local News - By Luke Hendry
The Intelligencer
Authorities are investigating after a contracted cargo plane clipped a wire fence at CFB Trenton Thursday night.
Capt. Nicole Meszaros, the base's public affairs officer, said fog is believed to have been a factor in the accident, which damaged a section of fence on the base's eastern limit but did not damage the plane.
"Last night at approximately midnight an IL-76 Ilyushin carrying equipment to Canada from Afghanistan and scheduled to fly equipment out again had its landing gear come in contact with airport's perimeter fence," Meszaros said.
She said the large blue and white plane, which is used regularly for such missions, overshot the runway and hit the fence, then flew to Ottawa to avoid the fog.
"Last night it was foggy and weather was impacting visibility," Meszaros said. "Several fence poles were bent over and part of the fence collapsed. We found out later that some of the barbed wire became entangled in the landing gear of the Ilyushin."
She said "a concerned citizen" alerted military police to the fence damage; the MPs then called Transport Canada.
"After overshooting, the aircraft flew to Ottawa and landed safely there without further incident. Once in landed in Ottawa the aircraft was inspected by Transport Canada, and was deemed to be fit for flight after minor repairs.
"The aircraft consequently landed here this morning at about 9:30," Meszaros said.
"A follow-up investigation is going to be done by Transport Canada, and a parallel investigation is going to be done by the Canadian Forces Director of Flight Safety."
Meszaros said it was unclear whether the crew knew the plane had struck the fence, the damaged portion of which has been replaced by temporary fencing.
The Ilyushin and larger Antonov transports used to carry freight between Canada and overseas bases are based in former Soviet countries. Meszaros said those planes will be used less frequently once Canada's new C-17 Globemaster plans begin arriving later this year.
By Luke Hendry
Friday, May 11, 2007 - 10:00
Local News - By Luke Hendry
The Intelligencer
Authorities are investigating after a contracted cargo plane clipped a wire fence at CFB Trenton Thursday night.
Capt. Nicole Meszaros, the base's public affairs officer, said fog is believed to have been a factor in the accident, which damaged a section of fence on the base's eastern limit but did not damage the plane.
"Last night at approximately midnight an IL-76 Ilyushin carrying equipment to Canada from Afghanistan and scheduled to fly equipment out again had its landing gear come in contact with airport's perimeter fence," Meszaros said.
She said the large blue and white plane, which is used regularly for such missions, overshot the runway and hit the fence, then flew to Ottawa to avoid the fog.
"Last night it was foggy and weather was impacting visibility," Meszaros said. "Several fence poles were bent over and part of the fence collapsed. We found out later that some of the barbed wire became entangled in the landing gear of the Ilyushin."
She said "a concerned citizen" alerted military police to the fence damage; the MPs then called Transport Canada.
"After overshooting, the aircraft flew to Ottawa and landed safely there without further incident. Once in landed in Ottawa the aircraft was inspected by Transport Canada, and was deemed to be fit for flight after minor repairs.
"The aircraft consequently landed here this morning at about 9:30," Meszaros said.
"A follow-up investigation is going to be done by Transport Canada, and a parallel investigation is going to be done by the Canadian Forces Director of Flight Safety."
Meszaros said it was unclear whether the crew knew the plane had struck the fence, the damaged portion of which has been replaced by temporary fencing.
The Ilyushin and larger Antonov transports used to carry freight between Canada and overseas bases are based in former Soviet countries. Meszaros said those planes will be used less frequently once Canada's new C-17 Globemaster plans begin arriving later this year.
Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:33 pm
Here are a few photos I took the following day along Whites Road. Temporary fencing is covering the missing sections of fence. Luckily nobody on the ground was seriously injured or killed. I'm quite sure that it would have struck any vehicle passing by at that exact moment.
Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:13 pm
Interesting that the two reports differ regarding the resultant damage to the aircraft.
Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:31 am
The incident occurred in May and not June.
Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:53 am
Mike, would that be the "accident" in May?
only funnin' son
only funnin' son
Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:27 am
Another mishap/incident/accident.......
Federal probe underway after Ilyushin transport plane clips tree
Luke Hendry - Osprey News Network
Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:00
Local News - Another mishap involving a foreign cargo plane at CFB Trenton is the focus of a federal investigation, raising concerns about public safety.
Officials have confirmed an Ilyushin IL-76 Candid air transport struck a tree at the base Thursday morning, but were releasing few details pending the federal probe.
"One of the IL-76s made contact with a tree today," confirmed public affairs officer Capt. Nicole Meszaros.
"The Transportation Safety Board is investigating, and we will follow their recommendations if and when we get them," she said.
Late that afternoon, however, a base employee who spoke to Osprey News Network on condition of anonymity said staff there are concerned risky flying by foreign crews could result in disaster.
"If these bozos keep doing this, the next time they're going to take out houses," the man said. "It's just a matter of time before they crash, either in Belleville or Trenton."
It's the second time since May that a troubled landing attempt by an IL-76 has been investigated.
The large cargo planes are a regular sight at the base, where they are used to ferry materiel around the world while under contract to Canada's Department of National Defence.
Around midnight on the night of May 10, a Silk Way Airlines Il-76 based in Azerbaijan flying in heavy fog struck the base's eastern fence.
According to a preliminary Transport Canada report obtained by Osprey News Network, the turbojet aircraft "tore out approximately 150 feet of the airport perimeter fence," embedding some of the fence in its landing gear and causing "substantial damage" to the plane. The crew aborted the landing, instead touching down "uneventfully" in Ottawa.
The federal Transportation Safety Board, Transport Canada, and the Canadian Forces Directorate of Flight Safety (DFS) were notified, with the DFS leading the investigation.
No further details of that investigation were available Thursday.
The base worker said foreign crews under DND contract break Canadian flight laws frequently.
"There's something they're not taking care of, which is basically the Canadian flying rules," he said.
"Last time they took out the fence at the base. Last winter there were problems with freezing rain accumulating on the aircraft, and they were trying to take off with freezing rain on the aircraft," he said, adding that was also in violation of flight rules.
He said he lives on the approach path used by the planes as they fly into the base, and worries for the safety of residents in both cities.
"At one point you say, 'Well, next time they're going to hit my house.’”
He added his coworkers are also concerned, and fed up with what they say are cases of dangerous flying.
"We talked about this for the last hour, and we're all getting quite pissed off, because this is getting ridiculous," he said.
Meszaros, meanwhile, said little information could be released Thursday afternoon.
"It's all under investigation," she said.
"We take the safety of the community and the members of 8 Wing and the crew of the Ilyushin very seriously," Meszaros added.
A source told Osprey News Network the military no longer deals with that contractor, and noted Thursday's incident was unrelated.
"This is a different company," the source said, adding the plane was based in the Ukraine.
Further details from Transport Canada and the Transportation Safety Board could not be obtained by press time.
Federal probe underway after Ilyushin transport plane clips tree
Luke Hendry - Osprey News Network
Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:00
Local News - Another mishap involving a foreign cargo plane at CFB Trenton is the focus of a federal investigation, raising concerns about public safety.
Officials have confirmed an Ilyushin IL-76 Candid air transport struck a tree at the base Thursday morning, but were releasing few details pending the federal probe.
"One of the IL-76s made contact with a tree today," confirmed public affairs officer Capt. Nicole Meszaros.
"The Transportation Safety Board is investigating, and we will follow their recommendations if and when we get them," she said.
Late that afternoon, however, a base employee who spoke to Osprey News Network on condition of anonymity said staff there are concerned risky flying by foreign crews could result in disaster.
"If these bozos keep doing this, the next time they're going to take out houses," the man said. "It's just a matter of time before they crash, either in Belleville or Trenton."
It's the second time since May that a troubled landing attempt by an IL-76 has been investigated.
The large cargo planes are a regular sight at the base, where they are used to ferry materiel around the world while under contract to Canada's Department of National Defence.
Around midnight on the night of May 10, a Silk Way Airlines Il-76 based in Azerbaijan flying in heavy fog struck the base's eastern fence.
According to a preliminary Transport Canada report obtained by Osprey News Network, the turbojet aircraft "tore out approximately 150 feet of the airport perimeter fence," embedding some of the fence in its landing gear and causing "substantial damage" to the plane. The crew aborted the landing, instead touching down "uneventfully" in Ottawa.
The federal Transportation Safety Board, Transport Canada, and the Canadian Forces Directorate of Flight Safety (DFS) were notified, with the DFS leading the investigation.
No further details of that investigation were available Thursday.
The base worker said foreign crews under DND contract break Canadian flight laws frequently.
"There's something they're not taking care of, which is basically the Canadian flying rules," he said.
"Last time they took out the fence at the base. Last winter there were problems with freezing rain accumulating on the aircraft, and they were trying to take off with freezing rain on the aircraft," he said, adding that was also in violation of flight rules.
He said he lives on the approach path used by the planes as they fly into the base, and worries for the safety of residents in both cities.
"At one point you say, 'Well, next time they're going to hit my house.’”
He added his coworkers are also concerned, and fed up with what they say are cases of dangerous flying.
"We talked about this for the last hour, and we're all getting quite pissed off, because this is getting ridiculous," he said.
Meszaros, meanwhile, said little information could be released Thursday afternoon.
"It's all under investigation," she said.
"We take the safety of the community and the members of 8 Wing and the crew of the Ilyushin very seriously," Meszaros added.
A source told Osprey News Network the military no longer deals with that contractor, and noted Thursday's incident was unrelated.
"This is a different company," the source said, adding the plane was based in the Ukraine.
Further details from Transport Canada and the Transportation Safety Board could not be obtained by press time.
Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:13 am
I think it's time that the CF gets into the long-range transport business so they can stop farming out contracts to the LOWEST bidder.
-David
-David
Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:24 am
2nd C-17 for Canada should be delivered in a week or two. Had it's initial flight today.
Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:29 pm
There's a rumour floating around that the CF may add additional C-17's (CC-177) to the order. I don't know how much truth there is to this, specially if they shut down the production line.
Maybe now that the Cdn $$ is at parity with the US $$ we can afford a couple more!
Brian
Maybe now that the Cdn $$ is at parity with the US $$ we can afford a couple more!
Brian
Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:26 pm
I bet 150 feet of fence dragging behind made a quite a fireworks show when they did land.
Third world cowboys. If it's move by itself..lets go.
Canso42
Third world cowboys. If it's move by itself..lets go.
Canso42