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Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:46 am

#14 doesn't look like any J-79 that I've ever seen. I'm with Obergrafeter, not sure what it is but the oil tank is wrong, burner can and secondary nozzles don't match either of the two patterns I'm familiar with. Also the adapters for the trailer are completely wrong for J-79.

Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:14 am

RickH wrote:#14 doesn't look like any J-79 that I've ever seen. I'm with Obergrafeter, not sure what it is but the oil tank is wrong, burner can and secondary nozzles don't match either of the two patterns I'm familiar with. Also the adapters for the trailer are completely wrong for J-79.


#14 Pratt and Whitney F100 engine?

I think the picture of the F-15 next to it gave it away.

Steve

Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:28 am

Isn't #13 and # 25 the same a Pratt & Whitney J-58?

Steve

Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:33 am

You're correct. Both #13 and #25 are J58's.

Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:59 am

marine air wrote:Okay here goes;

1) Kinner 110 hp.
2) Alison turbine
3) LeRhone Rotary (W.W.I)
4) R-4360
5) Rolls Royce Griffon 57
6) Continental W-670 (tank) (220 hp.)
7) Continental R-670 aircraft (220 hp.)
8) Alison J-33
9) Curtiss OXX-5 with Bendix magneto
10) Wankel
11) DB-605 (ME-109G)
12) Allison V-1650 (P-39)
13) J-58 (SR-71)
14) GE-J79
15) P&W J-48
16) Argus AS-410C (Fieselor Storch and Pilatus P-2)
17) V-1710-100 (F-82)
18) Ranger V-12- 600 cubic inches (CurtissSeamew)
19) Wright R-760 (Navy N3N)
20) Le Blone 90 hp.
21) Curtiss OXX-6 with Scintilla mag
22) Henderson Model B (37 hp.)
23) Lycoming O-320 (Supercub)
24) R-3350 (Skyraider)
25) TF-404

Like Boyington I expect to go down in flames on many of these!


Why does #6 say "Jacobs" on the valve cover? :wink:
#10 has 4 cylinders! A Wankel engine doesn't have any cylinders. :roll:
#12 The Merlin was the V-1650, the Allison was the V-1710. Also the Allisons in the P-39 and P-63 were direct drive. They didn't have a gear reduction unit in the nose case, the gear reduction was in a separate case in the nose.
#24 has 4 rows of 7 cylinders. A 3350 has 2 rows of 9 cylinders.

Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:43 am

I'm surprised that Evergreen doesn't have a J-75 to put on displa with their new F-105G. :x :evil: :finga:

Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:55 am

hehe, sorry, can't play, that would be cheating...

Have all those pics too from the same museum :wink:

All your shots are great by the way !

Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:11 am

17 and 18 are the same engine at the same place at the same time.... :roll:
V-1710?

Dunno the others...except to say they are all way cool looking...
Z :P

Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:48 pm

This is this answer for the test, but if any questions maybe Michel C-GNCJ can add to this as it is not impossible that I made several mistakes. I just read the signs and I really don't have any idea what is what, you all are really good. I can tell the difference piston and jets that's about it.............please feel free to correct, this will be the finished answer list, I will add corrections as you post them.....................



1... Lambert R-266
2... Rolls Royce Model 250-C28
3... LeRhone Rotary C-9
4... P&W R-4360 Spare for the Goose
5... Rolls Royce Griffon 57
6... Continental W-670 (tank) (220 hp.)
7... Continental R-670 aircraft (220 hp.)
8... Allison J-33
9... Curtiss OX-5
10.. Nelson H-59 two-cycle engine, 40 horsepower
11.. DB-605 (ME-109G)
12.. Allison V-1650 (P-39)
13.. P&W J58
14.. F100-PW-100
15.. de Havilland Goblin
16.. de Havilland Gypsy Queen Mk2
17.. Allison V-1710
18.. Allison V-1710
19.. Wright R-760 Whirlaway
20.. Le Blone 90 hp.
21.. Curtiss OX-5 with Scintilla mag
22.. Health-Henderson Model B-4
23.. Lycoming O-32024) R-2360
25.. P&W J58
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Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:16 pm

Sorry, #13 and #25 are J58s. The J52 is the engine that powers the A-4, A-6, and EA-6. The J58 powered the A-12 and SR-71. The sign next to the engine in its cradle is an A-12 and the other engine is under an SR-71, so there's no mistaking what it is.

Here's more on the J58 which Pratt & Whitney called the JT11D-20A -

http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/j-58/

Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:38 pm

I shot from the hip on many of my guesses so don't assume too many of them are right. I love the sound of the J-79 how it whistles. Have no idea if any of those engines are it.
#6 with the Jacobs valve covers is probably an R-755 lie used on a Bamboo bomber UC-78.
Engines of that size and WW II era include the Continental 220hp. the Lycoming, Wright and Jacobs. They all were 220 hp. or more. Training Airplanes that used these 4 were the Stearman model 75's, Waco UPF-7 series, the Fairchild PT-23, Cessna UC-78, Timm N2T-1, Navy N3N, and the St. Louis St. Car PT-15/18 (can't remember the designation. )
Does that sound right(?)

Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:28 pm

does that look better??

Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:50 pm

this is the way the signs were posted, notice eye bolt in upper left of top photo. on second set notice number "10" on engine stand. but again I have no idea if this is right....I didn't know airplanes could fly without propellers...........................

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:13 am

As Bdk has already stated, if the answer to #12 is what it said on the placard, it's wrong.

It can't be an Allison and a V-1650, it's one or the other (and it looks like an Allison to me) and it can't be from a P-39 as it's got a reduction gear.

I'm sure I've seen a picture somewhere of TFC's P-39 with the cowlings off but I've no idea where to look for it, or if the nose of the engine was visible.

Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:47 am

The placard on the F100 is a bit off as well. There is no such thing as a F100-100. It's an F100-PW-100. No military engine in the modern era (since the introduction of the "unified" designation system) has deviated from that format. The Format is - Axxx-BB-xxx where A=Type (TurboFan, TurboJet, Turboprop/turboshaft), the first set of X's equals the model number, B=Manufacturer (Pratt & Whitney, General Electric, CFM Int'l, etc.), and the last set of X's equals the sub-model number starting with 100. The most recent variant of the F100 happens to be the F100-PW-229 and were installed from the factory on the late-build F-15Es, F-15Is, and F-15Ss.
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