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Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:16 pm

Gone!
Last edited by Nathan on Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:57 am, edited 2 times in total.

again

Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:43 pm

Not again, just hope the pilot might have made it.

Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:00 pm

They're saying it passed Pylon 8 and went inverted. No other details have been posted, but I feel for the families.

Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:26 pm

KRNV is reporting that it was a red L-39, but either way, it doesn't sound good.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20763879

Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:34 pm

Pilot reported to be Brad Morehouse of Wyoming. No word on his condition.

http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S= ... enu113_1_3

Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:07 pm

Very sad news again ..... also looks like the races have been canceled ...

Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:15 pm

Brad was confirmed as killed in this news report, along with another pilot yesterday.

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/9768017.html

darn it. :( :( :(


My condolences to their families.

Lynn

Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:01 pm

The races are NOT cancelled. They were just suspended for today, following the crash. Everything will resume tomorrow.

Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:23 pm

Saw the crash today, happened right in front of me. Coming around Pylon 8 and he just kept rolling and went right in. It was horrible. Nothing left.

Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:23 pm

Oh they didn't suspend races for the rest of the day. The unlimiteds ran around 4.

Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:00 pm

Man, this is like sprint car racing in the 70's. I lost so many friends and competitors but hard as it was, we all were "invincible" and took the risk knowing full well that it would happen to the other guy.

What I see now, unfortunately, is that when I was racing, I was young, single and full of fire and "braver than Dick Tracy". To compete now, pilots are older, successful businessmen, families, etc., a little tougher to accept but it is still a high risk profession.

We can look and say, "this has to stop" but it won't, and shouldn't. I feel very sad for all the losses this year but every one of the gents lost, would not have traded all their experiences and joys if they knew going in, today was the day. These are not kick back, laid back people. They live hard, fly hard, and face and accept the consequences.

I grieve for those they left behind but can appreciate the motive that drove them to the crossroads of "fate meeting circumstance".

God Bless all our lost friends. Thank you for the opportunity to be a part of your life and your passion. :cry:

????

Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:37 pm

I've been to the races a few times and really enjoyed it.
But it's kinda scary and I worry about my friends. It's so hard
on the planes and just plain dangerous. When our #44 T-6 is
done with racing I'll be very happy. I remember Sam having the rudder
and vertical cut off his YAK by Pardue's Sea Fury and the fatal T-6 mid
air a few years back. I look uopn these deaths has needless. I feel
so badly for their families. :( :( The phrase "at least they died happy"
doesn't work for me.

races

Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:00 pm

Jack, I feel pretty much the same way. I came close to going to last couple of years, but I am glad I am not there now. Man it is hard, I say a prayer for those guys every day, knowing they are running nearer the edge. Neither of those lost was a friend, but that only makes it a touch better. Howard is an old friend and a good one, and there's guys like Tiger, Dan, and Dan, Gary, and others. Every time someone is lost it is like a small piece of a dream turns dark.

Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:54 pm

I was in front of Merlin's Magic Pit on the line when it happened. I had the Canon Mark III out and clicked off 24 frames. Out of respect to the pilot's family I'm not going to post the pictures.

At OSH with Gerry Beck, you could see 2 Mustangs colliding. Here you see L-39 parts coming out of a fireball. The parts include pilot, which is something that shouldn't be shown.

All I can say was that the jets were high, wide, and fast and two tried to get back inside the course (if they weren't out, they were on the edge), the L-39 got in the wake turbulence, started rolling and was pitched down at about 30 degrees from 150 feet. I'd say they were going 450+ MPH at impact. Not much left, not even a real fire. Most of the burning was fuel in the air.

I'm sure someone will put a video on YOUTUBE.

Mark H

Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:04 pm

P51Mstg wrote:you could see 2 Mustangs colliding. Here you see L-39 parts coming out of a fireball. The parts include pilot, which is something that shouldn't be shown.


So you won't post a photo because it "shouln't be shown," but you'll eagerly describe the gruesome aspects of the crash that killed my aquaintence. That's just great. Thank a lot for that.

YGBSM.
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