Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:48 pm
Marine's Dream was a real plane and it was with the Black Sheep? I had no idea. Jack would you mind posting those pics? Pretty please¿
Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:00 pm
I'll post them tonight.
Ray Dieckman's FG was a complete hodgepodge of markings with
nothing really accurate. The original was flown by Ed Olander.
I found it humerous that he won the rolls royce throphy with those markings after John Lane's FG lost with them saying the blue was slightly off shade or something equally stupid
Ray Dieckman's FG was a complete hodgepodge of markings with
nothing really accurate. The original was flown by Ed Olander.
I found it humerous that he won the rolls royce throphy with those markings after John Lane's FG lost with them saying the blue was slightly off shade or something equally stupid
Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:32 pm
Prayers UP for any and ALL ( mil. or civ.) who were less than perfectly jake under all circumstances.
Meself included...
And thank God all Pappy's previous COs didn't run him off before he had a chance to do his part in beating Japan!!!
Meself included...
And thank God all Pappy's previous COs didn't run him off before he had a chance to do his part in beating Japan!!!
Boyington's License Plates
Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:40 pm
Boyington used to sell his book out of the back of a GMC van at airshows. I had the opportunity to photograph the license plate at two different airshows a year apart.
The first was at the "Gathering of Warbirds" at Madera , California, during 1984. The plate frame had "Flying Ace" on the top and "Pappy Boyington" on the bottom. The plate was a March California one with a CA 84 tag. The nunber displayed was "F4U1 86".
The second time was in Yakima , Washington. at the "Gathering of Legends" in 1985. The plate frame was the same as was the March , California plate, which now carried a CA 85 tag. The number displayed however, now was "Congressional Medal of Honor 09". At Yakima , I also got a photo of "Pappy" himself signing books. He was dressed in a yellow flight suit (?) with red, white and blue stripes.
During 1988, I returned to Madera for the annual "Gathering" airshow . Since "Pappy" has passed on just before that, they had a missing man flight composed of ,I believe, three Corsairs and a P-40, with the P-40 being the one to pull up and out of the formation. There is a possibility it was the other way around and someone can correct me. At any rate , very impressive and a definite crowd pleaser.
They also sold a very nice t-shirt with a Corsair on one side and a P-40 on the other . It had an inscription on it which read "Thanks, Pappy" and I still have it. (Fits too!!)
This is kind of carrying trivia to the extreme but in light of the number of "Pappy's" Corsair being kicked around here, I thought it might be of interest.
Maybe the next time I can corral my daughter long enough, she can get me set up so I can post these three photos if there is any interest.
mike13
The first was at the "Gathering of Warbirds" at Madera , California, during 1984. The plate frame had "Flying Ace" on the top and "Pappy Boyington" on the bottom. The plate was a March California one with a CA 84 tag. The nunber displayed was "F4U1 86".
The second time was in Yakima , Washington. at the "Gathering of Legends" in 1985. The plate frame was the same as was the March , California plate, which now carried a CA 85 tag. The number displayed however, now was "Congressional Medal of Honor 09". At Yakima , I also got a photo of "Pappy" himself signing books. He was dressed in a yellow flight suit (?) with red, white and blue stripes.
During 1988, I returned to Madera for the annual "Gathering" airshow . Since "Pappy" has passed on just before that, they had a missing man flight composed of ,I believe, three Corsairs and a P-40, with the P-40 being the one to pull up and out of the formation. There is a possibility it was the other way around and someone can correct me. At any rate , very impressive and a definite crowd pleaser.
They also sold a very nice t-shirt with a Corsair on one side and a P-40 on the other . It had an inscription on it which read "Thanks, Pappy" and I still have it. (Fits too!!)
This is kind of carrying trivia to the extreme but in light of the number of "Pappy's" Corsair being kicked around here, I thought it might be of interest.
Maybe the next time I can corral my daughter long enough, she can get me set up so I can post these three photos if there is any interest.
mike13
Pappy
Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:01 pm
Yeah I remember my dad taking me to Madera for several years.
I remember the Pappy and Mike Kawato(sp?) autographs, we had a few of em.
Pappy lived in Fresno till the end.
He used to visit my uncles, whom he became aviation buddies with.
He was always such a nice guy.
Man the memories.
I sure do miss Bob Guilfords routines at Madera.
But then again, also Lefty, and all the P-51's!
I counted 26 there one year.
I'll never forget the time me and my cousin wandered out to near the end of the runway, while Bob Love was doing his routine in Jolly Roger.
He'd do the "kick dust off the ground" pass with the prop, then he'd come around and do a really low inverted pass, and as he pushed out, he was looking up (inverted) at us, man you'd be shot for trying a move like that now! lol.
SOme things will just never be the same.
Doc Saldivar
I remember the Pappy and Mike Kawato(sp?) autographs, we had a few of em.
Pappy lived in Fresno till the end.
He used to visit my uncles, whom he became aviation buddies with.
He was always such a nice guy.
Man the memories.
I sure do miss Bob Guilfords routines at Madera.
But then again, also Lefty, and all the P-51's!
I counted 26 there one year.
I'll never forget the time me and my cousin wandered out to near the end of the runway, while Bob Love was doing his routine in Jolly Roger.
He'd do the "kick dust off the ground" pass with the prop, then he'd come around and do a really low inverted pass, and as he pushed out, he was looking up (inverted) at us, man you'd be shot for trying a move like that now! lol.
SOme things will just never be the same.
Doc Saldivar
Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:52 pm
Who are we to so smuggly judge these men and their Life decisions?
What contirbutions to society or merits earned give us the right?
I both respect and admire Col. Boyington. I sincerly wish I could have met him before he passed. And am glad such a man, like many others, lived and played his part in history. As far as his personal life goes. God knows I haven't made all good decisions through out my years. So I'm not about to critque how another man choses to live his life. There is no way for any of us to really know why Pappy thought the way he did, however that may have been. The only people that should be concerned with whether or not he was a good father and husband are his spouse and children. It's none of our business, and should remain that way.
So why don't we let him rest in peace and remember him for the beacon of light that he was in such a dark time.
This isn't a slam against any one person, just against a reoccuring trend I've been seeing here on WIX as of late.
As always Jack, great pictures.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
What contirbutions to society or merits earned give us the right?
I both respect and admire Col. Boyington. I sincerly wish I could have met him before he passed. And am glad such a man, like many others, lived and played his part in history. As far as his personal life goes. God knows I haven't made all good decisions through out my years. So I'm not about to critque how another man choses to live his life. There is no way for any of us to really know why Pappy thought the way he did, however that may have been. The only people that should be concerned with whether or not he was a good father and husband are his spouse and children. It's none of our business, and should remain that way.
So why don't we let him rest in peace and remember him for the beacon of light that he was in such a dark time.
This isn't a slam against any one person, just against a reoccuring trend I've been seeing here on WIX as of late.
As always Jack, great pictures.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:32 pm
Jack Cook wrote:Boyington went down in B/N 17915 but this is the a/c he is usually connected with except of course the bogis #86.
Maybe my next auction should be VMF-214?
Man, is that the fuel tank leaking all over the top of the front of the plane?