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thank god im an american!

Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:37 pm

JDK wrote:Great photo survey, and an excellent selection of shots, thanks F3V.

n5151ts wrote:those are airplanes and they should be flying---

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http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... 7&start=20

In this case the rarity of the Yak 9 and Marauder mitigate against flying them. May I point out there was a B-26 flying, in the US, we are now poorer that airframe and, more importantly, several irreplaceable people.

The 'Fw 190' is a French built example. Remember the stories of worker sabotage?

The Polikarpov - well, a chap in New Zealand didn't bang on on chat forums, he got a new production run of two types and got those back into the air. Of course, not being P-51s, they didn't sell as well as they might have.

If you really want to fly one of the others, get your checkbook out. There's examples available if you aren't just blowing smoke.

Concorde - I'll fly, if you pay the bills. :D

It's an old line, and boring. Like it or not, we have national museums who preserve aircraft for future generations, statically. These aren't 'airplanes', they are (mostly) ex- military aircraft designed for war. Flying them would only be part of 'using' them. The rest isn't normally permitted - for long.

Regards,



in america you and I can have different opinions and neither one is particularly the RIGHT one for the other guy!

Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:00 am

The museum of Bourget Makes it does not have vocation to make steal the restored planes once again, in year 1980 Dewoitine D-520 was repaired of theft but it crashed since planes do not fly any more, than it is for the Yak and to Pilfer it as well that P-47 this plane is rare see unique in Europe it is purely unthinkable to make them steal. As for B-26 Marauder it complies with 99 % in the norms of WWII, he lacks only him spear bulges out in the hold.
The Spitfire Mk XVI could fly, some years ago still he made rollings on the ground.
Concorde will not fly any more on top of that it uses so much combustible as a drunkard in a bar :lol:

Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:35 am

love it!

Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:43 am

F3V wrote:Me and the Big Boy

:D


F3V-

I'm going to Paris just after xmas... I'd like to see Le Bourget... are there any other air museums to see as well?

gunny

Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:44 am

near Paris there is La Ferté Allais (south of Paris at 20-25 miles)

Musée Européen de la chasse at Montélimar (Location): Link

Musée du chateau de Savigny les Beaune (location link

Aérodrome de Dijon Darois (near Dijon) location (you could see flying Spitfire Pr XIX and a FW 190 under construction and a Sea Fury)
:D

I miss that: every Thursday you can visit Dugny where are stored the not restored planes of le bourget air museum (He 111, B-17G, Meteor, 2 Super Connie, Caravelle, Beech 18, Hispano Buchon, Camberra, Canadair... you could see every planes who are stored hear: http://www.pyperpote.tonsite.biz/pages/reservespag.html

but it is necessary to take a rendez vous with the museum
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Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:50 am

F3V-

Thanks... those museums look neat... unfortunately I'll be sticking close to Paris this trip... Le Bourget it is!

gunny

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:06 am

here is a link with all of my pics about B-26 Marauder...

http://profilavions.canalblog.com/album ... index.html
28 pics!

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:18 am

F3V-

Cool... the only other one I've seen is Kermit Weeks' in Florida.

g

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:18 am

F3V-

Cool... the only other one I've seen is Kermit Weeks' in Florida.

g

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:30 am

It is very nice, and you can approach very close. Same on the Concorde...VERY small inside. I may have mixed up locations, but isn't there also one of the premier WW1 collections there as well?
cheers,
Paul

Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:15 am

yes Concorde is very, very, very smal for me... :lol:

Re: nice but very sad pictures...

Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:31 am

JDK wrote:The 'Fw 190' is a French built example. Remember the stories of worker sabotage?


Is there a link with anymore info on this? Didn't see anything come up in google.

Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:35 am

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Next pics coming soon.... :wink:

Re: nice but very sad pictures...

Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:57 pm

Django wrote:
JDK wrote:The 'Fw 190' is a French built example. Remember the stories of worker sabotage?
Is there a link with anymore info on this? Didn't see anything come up in google.

Technically, it's an NC-900

From the Warbird Directory, 4th Ed:
No.62 • NC 900A-8 No.62 (Armee de l'Air as No.62)
(Fw190A-8) Musee de l'Air, Paris-Le Bourget 80/02
(displ. as Luftwaffe "7298/13+-" (left) "5+1" (right)

To be fair, I think it was built postwar...

Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:29 pm

Some Fw 190 parts were recovered in 1945 at Cravant with the planes, they were re-built and assigned to Regiment Normandie Niemen but airframes had summers sabotaged during war and planes were dangerous to make fly

here is a link in french only: http://www.histavia21.net/Cravant/cravant.htm
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