9th weather Reconnaissance squadron in ww2
Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:58 am
Just read an a old Air Classic that had a 2 part
article about them and was wondering if anyone has photo's of any of the P-51B/C that they used?
Thanks
article about them and was wondering if anyone has photo's of any of the P-51B/C that they used?
Thanks
Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:22 pm
Might contact Martin (SwissMustangs)...he might have one or two...
???
Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:30 pm
The article was called Orphans of the Storm by the son of one of the pilots John Burlinggame (sp). I have a couple of photos. They had a number of x-354th FG P-51Ds assigned to them.
Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:50 am
yup - got the articles scanned - and quite a number of negs and photos in my collection
Martin
Martin
Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:55 am
9th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron (Prov)
(4 January 1944-30 May 1945)
[microfilmed records on roll B-0017 frames 0078-0336
OpReps (Form 34A) located on frames 0127-0336 6/44 to 7/45]
In November of 1943, 10 pilots of the 67th RG were sent to weather school at RAF Zeals under the command of Col T S Moorman. The 9th WRX became operational under detached service with the 67th RG on 4 January 1944 at Middle Wallop, ENG and flew 275 missions until 3 June 1944 when they achieved their own Squadron status. Major Maxwell W Roman was the first commanding officer of the Squadron of 15 pilots and 14 aircraft. Pilots were selected from various PRGs, TRGs, and former bomber pilots.
Base assignments
Middle Wallop/ENG (Sta 449) 1/4/44 to 7/12/44 [w/ 67th RG]
Beaulieu/ENG (Sta 408) 7/12/44 to 8/10/44 [w/ 323rd BG]
Matching/ENG (Sta 166) 8/10/44 to 9/15/44 [w/391st BG]
Dreaux/FRA (A-41) 9/15/44 to 10/23/44 [w/ 397th BG]
Reims/FRA (A-62) 10/23/44 to 10/27/44 [w/ 373rd FG]
(transfered due to dusty runway conditions)
Laon-Athies/FRA (A-69) 10/27/44 to 4/15/45 [w/ 323rd BG]
St Trond/BEL (A-92) 4/15/45 to 9/45 [w/ 386th BG]
Pilots
Brooks, George J 1/Lt 0-706347 - 84 missions, DFC – ex 363rd FG
Budge, William W 0-856875
Burgmeier, John J F/O prompted 2/Lt
Clark, Andrew R 0-494451 ex RCAF – squadron adjutant
Dixon,
Dunwoody, William D 1/Lt 0-813121 109 ETD 11/9/44 – 2 tours, 136 missions
Fogelquist, Elmer W Lt T-124077 Prompted 2/Lt then 1/Lt 0-2009499
Funk, Fred
Glover, Jerry C 0-856987
Harding, Warren G Capt 0-663147 109
Heine, Thomas C 0-707689
Hetland Guttorm Lt [squadron artist]
Hills, Kenneth B 109
Holland, William D 0-886028 109 Transferred to 107TRS 4/14/44
DS from 22FS/36FG; MIA Battle of Bulge – nicknamed “Dutch”; grave found at Liège cemetery Flanders Field
Holt, Ashley (NMI) 0-875245
Jackson, Thomas W 2/Lt
Jersig, Frederick W 0-812433 109 From 15RS; ETD 11/10/44
Johnson, Daniel C
Killingsworth, Thomas H 0-692165
Kortuna, Michael (NMI) 0-885942 109 Transferred to 31st Ferry Group 5/3/44
354FG KMF 11/12/44 on DS
Lambert, Donald E 109
Lang, John C [also: Land]
Madden
Madson,
Marsh, Stanley E 0-442286 107
Matthews, Preston F 0-803418 109 Trans 107RS to 109 RS 4/15/44
ETD 11/9/44
McCall
McClure, Harry P 0-697287
Mims, Stewart L 0-885923 109 Cmd Officer 1/1/45
Moen, Lt lost on training flight 15.12.1944 ex P-38 unit in Iceland
Mullen, Jack R 0-812469 109 From 15TRS 3/22/44
Neon, Norton C 0-406427 KITMF A-69/FRA 1/25/45
Nido, Alberto A Capt 0-886008 107
Oglivie, Robert G 0-885567 107 ETD 11/30/44
Orzelek,
Ott, Norman E 1/Lt 0-8 0316 2 tours, 90 missions, DFC
Outlaw, John C Jr 0-813211
Palmer, Carlton E 1/Lt 0-701798 killed at St Trond shortly before VE Day
Spun in in mock dog-fight with P-47’s
Due to full 85 gallon fuselage tank
Ex 363rd FG – 106 missions, DFC
Rackham, Edwin J 0-886083 107
Robinson, Frank M 0-886089 23FS KIA 10/19/44 on DS from 36FG
Roman, Maxwell W 0-421887 107 Cmd Officer; ETD 1/1/45
Scott, Orville L 0-812495 109 From 15TRS 3/22/44
Vestal, John S 0-886083 107
Walker, Robert G 0-697304
Wood, Robert 2/Lt
Zybowski
S/Sgt Thomas S. Orton – parachute rigger (ex 322nd BG 449th BS – B-26 unit)
S/Sgt Frank K Holub – line chief
S/Sgt A P Lux – c/c 44-13396
Sgt Nance – c/c to Brooks
Capt Harold Banks – squadron meteorologist
Sgt Dixon – D.F. station
Credits
4/16/45 1 Me-109 damaged in Air by Dixon
1 Fw-190 destroyed in Air by Jackson
4/19/45 .5 Ju-52 destroyed in Air by John C Lang
.5 Ju-52 destroyed in air by George J Brooks
Radio Callsign: Hangover and Lowgear
Weather Recon flights were known as “Warbler Flights”
Pilots were nicknamed “Orphans of the Storm”
4 Jan-13 Dec 1944 2 pilots & 6 aircraft lost in 1912 missions flown
Pilots hometowns
Dunwoody- Long Island, NY
Harding- Sycamore, IL
Holland- New York City, NY
Kortuna- Bedford, OH
Oglivie- Bellevue, MI
Outlaw- Birmingham, AL
Rackham- AnnArbor, MI
Scott- Ola, AR
________________
assigned aircraft and photos to follow
Martin
(4 January 1944-30 May 1945)
[microfilmed records on roll B-0017 frames 0078-0336
OpReps (Form 34A) located on frames 0127-0336 6/44 to 7/45]
In November of 1943, 10 pilots of the 67th RG were sent to weather school at RAF Zeals under the command of Col T S Moorman. The 9th WRX became operational under detached service with the 67th RG on 4 January 1944 at Middle Wallop, ENG and flew 275 missions until 3 June 1944 when they achieved their own Squadron status. Major Maxwell W Roman was the first commanding officer of the Squadron of 15 pilots and 14 aircraft. Pilots were selected from various PRGs, TRGs, and former bomber pilots.
Base assignments
Middle Wallop/ENG (Sta 449) 1/4/44 to 7/12/44 [w/ 67th RG]
Beaulieu/ENG (Sta 408) 7/12/44 to 8/10/44 [w/ 323rd BG]
Matching/ENG (Sta 166) 8/10/44 to 9/15/44 [w/391st BG]
Dreaux/FRA (A-41) 9/15/44 to 10/23/44 [w/ 397th BG]
Reims/FRA (A-62) 10/23/44 to 10/27/44 [w/ 373rd FG]
(transfered due to dusty runway conditions)
Laon-Athies/FRA (A-69) 10/27/44 to 4/15/45 [w/ 323rd BG]
St Trond/BEL (A-92) 4/15/45 to 9/45 [w/ 386th BG]
Pilots
Brooks, George J 1/Lt 0-706347 - 84 missions, DFC – ex 363rd FG
Budge, William W 0-856875
Burgmeier, John J F/O prompted 2/Lt
Clark, Andrew R 0-494451 ex RCAF – squadron adjutant
Dixon,
Dunwoody, William D 1/Lt 0-813121 109 ETD 11/9/44 – 2 tours, 136 missions
Fogelquist, Elmer W Lt T-124077 Prompted 2/Lt then 1/Lt 0-2009499
Funk, Fred
Glover, Jerry C 0-856987
Harding, Warren G Capt 0-663147 109
Heine, Thomas C 0-707689
Hetland Guttorm Lt [squadron artist]
Hills, Kenneth B 109
Holland, William D 0-886028 109 Transferred to 107TRS 4/14/44
DS from 22FS/36FG; MIA Battle of Bulge – nicknamed “Dutch”; grave found at Liège cemetery Flanders Field
Holt, Ashley (NMI) 0-875245
Jackson, Thomas W 2/Lt
Jersig, Frederick W 0-812433 109 From 15RS; ETD 11/10/44
Johnson, Daniel C
Killingsworth, Thomas H 0-692165
Kortuna, Michael (NMI) 0-885942 109 Transferred to 31st Ferry Group 5/3/44
354FG KMF 11/12/44 on DS
Lambert, Donald E 109
Lang, John C [also: Land]
Madden
Madson,
Marsh, Stanley E 0-442286 107
Matthews, Preston F 0-803418 109 Trans 107RS to 109 RS 4/15/44
ETD 11/9/44
McCall
McClure, Harry P 0-697287
Mims, Stewart L 0-885923 109 Cmd Officer 1/1/45
Moen, Lt lost on training flight 15.12.1944 ex P-38 unit in Iceland
Mullen, Jack R 0-812469 109 From 15TRS 3/22/44
Neon, Norton C 0-406427 KITMF A-69/FRA 1/25/45
Nido, Alberto A Capt 0-886008 107
Oglivie, Robert G 0-885567 107 ETD 11/30/44
Orzelek,
Ott, Norman E 1/Lt 0-8 0316 2 tours, 90 missions, DFC
Outlaw, John C Jr 0-813211
Palmer, Carlton E 1/Lt 0-701798 killed at St Trond shortly before VE Day
Spun in in mock dog-fight with P-47’s
Due to full 85 gallon fuselage tank
Ex 363rd FG – 106 missions, DFC
Rackham, Edwin J 0-886083 107
Robinson, Frank M 0-886089 23FS KIA 10/19/44 on DS from 36FG
Roman, Maxwell W 0-421887 107 Cmd Officer; ETD 1/1/45
Scott, Orville L 0-812495 109 From 15TRS 3/22/44
Vestal, John S 0-886083 107
Walker, Robert G 0-697304
Wood, Robert 2/Lt
Zybowski
S/Sgt Thomas S. Orton – parachute rigger (ex 322nd BG 449th BS – B-26 unit)
S/Sgt Frank K Holub – line chief
S/Sgt A P Lux – c/c 44-13396
Sgt Nance – c/c to Brooks
Capt Harold Banks – squadron meteorologist
Sgt Dixon – D.F. station
Credits
4/16/45 1 Me-109 damaged in Air by Dixon
1 Fw-190 destroyed in Air by Jackson
4/19/45 .5 Ju-52 destroyed in Air by John C Lang
.5 Ju-52 destroyed in air by George J Brooks
Radio Callsign: Hangover and Lowgear
Weather Recon flights were known as “Warbler Flights”
Pilots were nicknamed “Orphans of the Storm”
4 Jan-13 Dec 1944 2 pilots & 6 aircraft lost in 1912 missions flown
Pilots hometowns
Dunwoody- Long Island, NY
Harding- Sycamore, IL
Holland- New York City, NY
Kortuna- Bedford, OH
Oglivie- Bellevue, MI
Outlaw- Birmingham, AL
Rackham- AnnArbor, MI
Scott- Ola, AR
________________
assigned aircraft and photos to follow
Martin
Last edited by Swiss Mustangs on Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:35 am
assigned a/c (list not exhaustive - comments & additions welcome)
43-6321 8O-N "Alile" [pilot: Nido]
43-6367 8O-O
43-6390 8O-?
43-6391 8O-?
43-6396 8O-?
43-6642 8O-? *
43-xxxxx 8O-X - OD P-51B
43-12xxx 8O-P "Betty D" [pilot Dunwoody] [c/c F.K. Smith] - NMF P-51B ex 354th FG 356th FS
44-13380 8O-S [pilot: Marsh]
44-13396 8O-K "Lady Alice" [pilot: Ott]
44-13525 8O-Y "Kansas Aggie" / "Ginny" [pilot: Brooks]
44-13548 8O-B* "Mountain....."
44-13551 8O-L
44-13585 8O-?
44-13644 8O-Y "Miss Manookie" [pilot: Johnson] - to Swiss AF
44-13706 8O-?
44-13780 8O-?
44-13896 8O-?
44-13900 8O-?
44-13xxx 8O-N "Alile II" [pilot: Nido]
44-14953 8O-X
44-13xxx 8O-J [pilot: Fogelquist]
44-14xxx 8O-Z
known nicknames w/o serials and/or codes
"Betty D" / "Tudy" 8O-P [pilot: Dunwoody] - OD P-51B [c/c F.K. Smith]
"Jewel" - OD P-51B
"Angels Playmate" [pilot: Ogilvie] - OD P-51B
"Baby Doll" - OD P-51B
"Outlaw" - P-51D
"Blues in the Night" - OD P-51B
Martin
43-6321 8O-N "Alile" [pilot: Nido]
43-6367 8O-O
43-6390 8O-?
43-6391 8O-?
43-6396 8O-?
43-6642 8O-? *
43-xxxxx 8O-X - OD P-51B
43-12xxx 8O-P "Betty D" [pilot Dunwoody] [c/c F.K. Smith] - NMF P-51B ex 354th FG 356th FS
44-13380 8O-S [pilot: Marsh]
44-13396 8O-K "Lady Alice" [pilot: Ott]
44-13525 8O-Y "Kansas Aggie" / "Ginny" [pilot: Brooks]
44-13548 8O-B* "Mountain....."
44-13551 8O-L
44-13585 8O-?
44-13644 8O-Y "Miss Manookie" [pilot: Johnson] - to Swiss AF
44-13706 8O-?
44-13780 8O-?
44-13896 8O-?
44-13900 8O-?
44-13xxx 8O-N "Alile II" [pilot: Nido]
44-14953 8O-X
44-13xxx 8O-J [pilot: Fogelquist]
44-14xxx 8O-Z
known nicknames w/o serials and/or codes
"Betty D" / "Tudy" 8O-P [pilot: Dunwoody] - OD P-51B [c/c F.K. Smith]
"Jewel" - OD P-51B
"Angels Playmate" [pilot: Ogilvie] - OD P-51B
"Baby Doll" - OD P-51B
"Outlaw" - P-51D
"Blues in the Night" - OD P-51B
Martin
Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:31 am
Thank you look forward to photo's.
Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:34 am
some more pilot data:
9th WRS
Name / Missions / Combat Hours / former unit(s) / remarks
Brooks, George J. 1st Lt O-706347 84 167.55 1/2 Ju-52 destroyed air 450419
Budge, William W. Capt O-856875 75 158.25
Burgmeier, Johhn J. 2nd Lt 22 53.25
Clark, Andrew R. 1st Lt O-494451 104 216.00
Dixon, Charles E. 2nd Lt 39 89.30 1 Me-109 damaged air 450416
Dunwoody, William D. 1st Lt O-813121 67th TRG 109th TRS ETD 441109
Fitch, Albert W. 1st Lt 58 192.00
Fogelquist, Elmer W. 2nd Lt T-124077; O-2009499 77 157.20 363rd FG 382nd FS / 362nd FG
Funk, Edwin J. 1st Lt O-689758 45 107.20
Glover, Jerry C. O-856987
Harding, Warren G. O-663147 67th TRG 109th TRS
Heine, Thomas C. 1st Lt O-707689 93 191.20
Hendricks, Charles J. 2nd Lt 18 92.05
Hetland, Guttorm [NMI] 2nd Lt O-821710 28 63.15
Hills, Kenneth B. 67th TRG 109th TRS
Holland, William D. O-886028 67th TRG 109th TRS transferred to 107th TRS 440414; DS from 36th FG 22nd FS; MIA
Holt, Ashley [NMI] O-875245
Jackson, Thomas W. 2nd Lt 47 157.45 1 FW-190 destroyed air 450416
Jersig, Frederick W. O-812433 67th TRG 109th TRS from 15th TRS, ETD 441110
Johnson, Daniel C. 1st Lt 83 177.30
Killingsworth, Thomas H. O-692165
Kortuna, Michael [NMI] O-885942 67th TRG 109th TRS transferred to 31st Ferry Group 440503; 354th FG, KMF 441112 on DS
Lambert, Donald E. 67th TRG 109th TRS
Lang, John C. 1/2 Ju-52 destroyed air 450419
Madson John A. 2nd Lt 55 200.55
Marsh, Stanley E. O-442286 67th TRG 107th TRS
Matthews, Preston F. O-803418 67th TRG 109th TRS transferred from 107th TRS to 109th TRS 440415; ETD 441109
McClure Harry P. 1st Lt O-697287 89 173.05
Mims, Stewart L. Capt O-885923 134 273.30 67th TRG 109th TRS CO as of 450101
Mullen, Jack R. O-812469 67th TRG 109th TRS from 15th TRS 440322
Neon, Norton C. O-406427 KITMF A-69/FRA 450125
Nido, Alberto A. O-886008 67th TRG 107th TRS
Oglivie, Robert G. O-885567 67th TRG 107th TRS ETD 441130
Orzelek, Felix J. 2nd Lt 48 187.55
Ott, Norman E. 1st Lt O-8?0316 90 184.50
Outlaw, John C. Jr. O-813211
Palmer, Carleton E. O-701798
Rackham, Edwin J. O-886083 67th TRG 107th TRS
Robinson, Frank M. O-886089 36th FG 23rd FS KIA 441019 on DS from 36th FG
Roman, Maxwell W. O-421887 67th TRG 107th TRS CO; ETD 450101
Scott, Orville L. O-812495 67th TRG 109th TRS from 15th TRS 440322
Vestal, Jon S. O-886083 67th TRG 107th TRS
Walker, Robert G. O-697304
Wood, Robert K. 2nd Lt 23 63.05
Zboinski, Dolphe C. 1st Lt 27 91.10
9th WRS
Name / Missions / Combat Hours / former unit(s) / remarks
Brooks, George J. 1st Lt O-706347 84 167.55 1/2 Ju-52 destroyed air 450419
Budge, William W. Capt O-856875 75 158.25
Burgmeier, Johhn J. 2nd Lt 22 53.25
Clark, Andrew R. 1st Lt O-494451 104 216.00
Dixon, Charles E. 2nd Lt 39 89.30 1 Me-109 damaged air 450416
Dunwoody, William D. 1st Lt O-813121 67th TRG 109th TRS ETD 441109
Fitch, Albert W. 1st Lt 58 192.00
Fogelquist, Elmer W. 2nd Lt T-124077; O-2009499 77 157.20 363rd FG 382nd FS / 362nd FG
Funk, Edwin J. 1st Lt O-689758 45 107.20
Glover, Jerry C. O-856987
Harding, Warren G. O-663147 67th TRG 109th TRS
Heine, Thomas C. 1st Lt O-707689 93 191.20
Hendricks, Charles J. 2nd Lt 18 92.05
Hetland, Guttorm [NMI] 2nd Lt O-821710 28 63.15
Hills, Kenneth B. 67th TRG 109th TRS
Holland, William D. O-886028 67th TRG 109th TRS transferred to 107th TRS 440414; DS from 36th FG 22nd FS; MIA
Holt, Ashley [NMI] O-875245
Jackson, Thomas W. 2nd Lt 47 157.45 1 FW-190 destroyed air 450416
Jersig, Frederick W. O-812433 67th TRG 109th TRS from 15th TRS, ETD 441110
Johnson, Daniel C. 1st Lt 83 177.30
Killingsworth, Thomas H. O-692165
Kortuna, Michael [NMI] O-885942 67th TRG 109th TRS transferred to 31st Ferry Group 440503; 354th FG, KMF 441112 on DS
Lambert, Donald E. 67th TRG 109th TRS
Lang, John C. 1/2 Ju-52 destroyed air 450419
Madson John A. 2nd Lt 55 200.55
Marsh, Stanley E. O-442286 67th TRG 107th TRS
Matthews, Preston F. O-803418 67th TRG 109th TRS transferred from 107th TRS to 109th TRS 440415; ETD 441109
McClure Harry P. 1st Lt O-697287 89 173.05
Mims, Stewart L. Capt O-885923 134 273.30 67th TRG 109th TRS CO as of 450101
Mullen, Jack R. O-812469 67th TRG 109th TRS from 15th TRS 440322
Neon, Norton C. O-406427 KITMF A-69/FRA 450125
Nido, Alberto A. O-886008 67th TRG 107th TRS
Oglivie, Robert G. O-885567 67th TRG 107th TRS ETD 441130
Orzelek, Felix J. 2nd Lt 48 187.55
Ott, Norman E. 1st Lt O-8?0316 90 184.50
Outlaw, John C. Jr. O-813211
Palmer, Carleton E. O-701798
Rackham, Edwin J. O-886083 67th TRG 107th TRS
Robinson, Frank M. O-886089 36th FG 23rd FS KIA 441019 on DS from 36th FG
Roman, Maxwell W. O-421887 67th TRG 107th TRS CO; ETD 450101
Scott, Orville L. O-812495 67th TRG 109th TRS from 15th TRS 440322
Vestal, Jon S. O-886083 67th TRG 107th TRS
Walker, Robert G. O-697304
Wood, Robert K. 2nd Lt 23 63.05
Zboinski, Dolphe C. 1st Lt 27 91.10
Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:20 am
Missed the last post before so a late Thanks.
Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:55 pm
....Lookin' at all that data, beginnin' to wonder how many terrabytes of data & photos Martin's got! (Not to mention Jack C's collection!) 
Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:33 am
Was looking at the 363rd FG book and there was a "Angels Playmate" in the 380 FS .there was 3 P-51's with the same name flown by Ed Ballinger.
Martin do you think maybe "Angels Playmate" ( Ogilvie) - OD P-51B was one of them?
Hope to see photo's you said you have.
thanks
Martin do you think maybe "Angels Playmate" ( Ogilvie) - OD P-51B was one of them?
Hope to see photo's you said you have.
thanks
Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:50 am
here's Angels Playmate....
Martin
Martin
Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:51 pm
Thanks. Nice and clear.
I wonder if Bruce Carr got the idea of this name when he was in the 380 FS(if this is the same P-51 as in the 380 FS)
Will never know I guess.
Any more on the other P-51B's?
Eric
I wonder if Bruce Carr got the idea of this name when he was in the 380 FS(if this is the same P-51 as in the 380 FS)
Will never know I guess.
Any more on the other P-51B's?
Eric
Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:24 am
never mind.
Rick
Rick
Last edited by Starduster77 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:05 am
PM sent
cordially
Martin
cordially
Martin