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Great video!

On the "only flying", KMILES wrote:

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I can tell you that everything that comes out of the office here in Stow, either written or verbal, states that it is the only B-24J flying.


Hmmm.....Not what their site says:

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/tour_b-24j.htm

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Old SAR pilot wrote:
Great video!

On the "only flying", KMILES wrote:

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I can tell you that everything that comes out of the office here in Stow, either written or verbal, states that it is the only B-24J flying.


Hmmm.....Not what their site says:

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/tour_b-24j.htm


Look at the date. It came out in 2004 and according to the post you quoted they changed to "B-24J" in 2005 (3 years ago). Please read the entire post in context before doing something like this. It only serves to cause strife.


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Gary, Like many of us I am both a CAF and an EAA guy. I am glad both planes are flying and I don't worry too much about the fine points of distinction between a 24 and a 24/30. Your work can and should speak for itself.
I have a hard time saying anything bad about Collings either, since I got to fly their B-17, even did a low pass. Nice folks, as are most CAF people. I was pretty impressed with the pilots who were able to do flights out of a 44 foot wide runway, 4800 feet long at a mile high elevation in the 17. The B-24 flew in, but had some (nose gear?) glitch so didn't do flights.

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kmiles,

The Collings Foundation website still claims the only flying B-24 in the world. Checked it today.

I guess it doesn't originate in Stowe.

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That section should be just as easy to update as the tour schedule.

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Old SAR pilot wrote:
Great video!

On the "only flying", KMILES wrote:

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I can tell you that everything that comes out of the office here in Stow, either written or verbal, states that it is the only B-24J flying.


Hmmm.....Not what their site says:

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/tour_b-24j.htm


Look at the date. It came out in 2004 and according to the post you quoted they changed to "B-24J" in 2005 (3 years ago). Please read the entire post in context before doing something like this. It only serves to cause strife.


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I think a representative of the CAF, with its history of at times pretending to be the only game in town as far as warbirds go (numerous public statements that I can recall), would be better served bringing this bit of knowledge to the attention of whatever marketing people are available to the CAF instead of dragging it onto the board here on WIX. I'm no financial supporter of the CF or the CAF, multiple reasons, but this kind of crap is back-biting amateur at its worst and does no good to either of the organizations. Who cares about the CF advertising? It's their business. Let me restate it: I think people who are caretakers of these airplanes have better things to do than poke at other people who are caretakers of these airplanes.

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Getting back to the VIDEO, which WAS Gary's original purpose for his post. . .

What a great video, a great mission, and a great way to honor yet another WW2 hero! Outstanding!

Dean the impressed!


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Wow...you know what. A VETERAN took his final flight the other day with his entire family on board. He fought for his country in a B-24....SO THAT WE CAN HAVE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. end of story. What I wouldn't give so that everyone could have seen the emotional saga that each and everyone of those family members had to deal with on that flight. It makes this whole issue moot.

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The Collings airplane is the Only Transient B-24J selling rides in Texas?

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Sorry I brought it up. The intent was not to bash the Collings folks, but was just a venting of sorts to express my personal opinion about an issue.

The primary reason for starting this thread was to show the tribute made to a Vet with the spreading of his ashes from a B-24.

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JimH wrote:
Wow...you know what. A VETERAN took his final flight the other day with his entire family on board. He fought for his country in a B-24....SO THAT WE CAN HAVE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. end of story. What I wouldn't give so that everyone could have seen the emotional saga that each and everyone of those family members had to deal with on that flight. It makes this whole issue moot.

Jim


That is what it's all about right there. The Veterans and their families. Makes all those long hours being out on the road with ANY warbird, all the bad weather encountered along the way, and all of the mechanical problems completely worth it when you can witness something special like this. I have met several veterans out on the road with the bombers. I am grateful to still have the opportunity to do so as many of them are leaving us on a daily basis.


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Last year at the Ellington-Houston stop we were honored by the presence of a former B-24 pilot and retired judge. He was wearing a flight suit with patches all over it from the CAF and CF. He was interviewed by the Houston Chronicle and a picture of him with Witchcraft was included with the article. He was excited to be out with the plane, and it was obvious.

The event must have really meant a lot to him. It is my sad duty to report that the same picture accompanied his obituary just last week. I'm sure that if he had been able we would have seen him again next week when the Bombers come back to Ellington.

Another Hero gone.

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I met several WW2 vets while I was volunteering with the CF folks at Dallas Love Field this past Friday. For me, a "4-F" who couldn't serve, it is always an honour to even stand in their presence. I could listen to their stories all day. I can't help but wonder if they'll still be with us next year. I sure hope so.

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P.S.: Gary, I'm glad you started this thread. I understood its intended purpose right from the get-go. I can see that several others did as well. -DH


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I met several WW2 vets while I was volunteering with the CF folks at Dallas Love Field this past Friday. For me, a "4-F" who couldn't serve, it is always an honour to even stand in their presence. I could listen to their stories all day. I can't help but wonder if they'll still be with us next year. I sure hope so.

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P.S.: Gary, I'm glad you started this thread. I understood its intended purpose right from the get-go. I can see that several others did as well. -DH


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