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Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:26 pm

Ollie wrote:What if the 109 wasn't produced? Well, Hyperscale would be in big troubles to find something to put on its pages! :lol:

Scott, never mind the He 112, I'd go for the He 100D, now that was one mean plane!


True, but the He 100 came later strangely enough, though it might have been a significant upgrade for the He 112 further on (almost akin to the upgrade from the Bf 109E to the F/G series)[/quote]

Ollie wrote:And I wouldn' take all the things said in the article about the 109 as Holy Truth.

8)


I don't take any article or book as the definitive truth, I have found too many descrepencies in them (ie the Bf vs. Me thing)

Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:44 pm

I don't bother with the Bf/Me thing, life is too short for that.

I leave it to the rivet counters over at Hyperscale to decide what to do with this!

:lol:

Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:26 pm

This might clarify things a bit, as mentioned both are correct...here is the proof

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index800.htm

Click on 'articles' in the menu

Dave

Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:23 pm

DaveM2 wrote:This might clarify things a bit, as mentioned both are correct...here is the proof

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index800.htm

Click on 'articles' in the menu

Dave


That just shows that it confused the Germans as well :lol:

Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:43 pm

the bf vs me bit is not confusing at all. designed by Messerschmidt so had a Me designation for messerschmidt to deal with. But made by Bayerisch Flugzeugwerk so had a Bf designation for dealing with the factory. simple. now to hope I had the spelling of those correct.

well, at least that's how I had it explained to me.

Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:07 pm

Jeffrey wrote:the bf vs me bit is not confusing at all. designed by Messerschmidt so had a Me designation for messerschmidt to deal with. But made by Bayerisch Flugzeugwerk so had a Bf designation for dealing with the factory. simple. now to hope I had the spelling of those correct.

well, at least that's how I had it explained to me.


Thats the way it seems to be to me as well.

Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:07 am

Jeffrey wrote:the bf vs me bit is not confusing at all. designed by Messerschmidt so had a Me designation for messerschmidt to deal with. But made by Bayerisch Flugzeugwerk so had a Bf designation for dealing with the factory. simple. now to hope I had the spelling of those correct.

well, at least that's how I had it explained to me.


Except that a large percentage wern't built at the BF Werke, but factories like Erla and WNF, Austria :)

Dave

Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:58 am

DaveM2 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:the bf vs me bit is not confusing at all. designed by Messerschmidt so had a Me designation for messerschmidt to deal with. But made by Bayerisch Flugzeugwerk so had a Bf designation for dealing with the factory. simple. now to hope I had the spelling of those correct.

well, at least that's how I had it explained to me.


Except that a large percentage wern't built at the BF Werke, but factories like Erla and WNF, Austria :)

Dave


Heh, lets start referring to Erla built 109's as Er 109 just to drive the 109 fans nuts :)

why yes, I am evil, thank you for asking.
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