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1Lt. Jerold "Newky" Newquist and the original crew of "Chow-hound", a B-17G-15-BO serial 42-31367, assigned to the 322nd BS (LG-R code), 91st BG, Bassingbourn. Photo dated 12 March 1944.

Chow-hound and the entire 1Lt. Jack Thompson crew of nine men were lost on the 8 August mission to a target SE of Caen, France. Five minutes prior to the target a flak shell entered the waist and exploded, breaking the aircraft in two.


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Ok Wade,
It's time to start dishing out those 4th FG gems
I know you're hoarding :!: :idea: :twisted: :wink:

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Well.... I used to have that kit, never built it, I sold it instead... Interesting to know the story.

My grandfather was a ragged irregular as well, ball turret gunner in the "General Ike," they fared a bit better than these courageous young men though... Its very strange to think that these men running off to protect our country were for the most part no older than me(I'm 17 now), but in my mind they always seem old, just because the only ones I've met are old in the here and now. If I was asked to do what they did, I'd like to think that I could... we'll see how I fare in ROTC...


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A great model kit.

Since 1975, I've built dozens of them--many of them for paying customers. Currently, I have one hanging in the Calumet City Historical Society and two flying around my office/library.

I also have at least seven unbuilt examples (in the box) waiting for the B-17G assembly line diorama that I am going to build. I also have three unbuilt Revell B-17F models, one of which will be used with the Koster Aero B-17C conversion kit.

The Monogram B-17G is a great model kit. Easy to build and great looking right out of the box and amazing potential with all the aftermarket stuff out there or old fashion scratch building.
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Somebody say Monogram?

I loved the Monogram lineup...

I was no great modeler, but it taught me WWII aircraft recognition fairly well.

48 scale! (for the most part) @ 1978 - the rest were hanging from the ceiling...I can't seem to find that picture.
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The Arizona Wing of the CAF has a propeller blade and a small piece of wing structure from Chow Hound on display. French folks saved the pieces during the war and recently donated them.

I built many of the Mono kits, including a scratchbuilt "C" with a P-47 wing for the vertical fin :shock: . It was wildly inaccurate, but at the time I thought I did good. I've started on a Y1B-17, but don't know when it will see the light of day.

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Like many of us modelers, the old Monogram B-17G was the kit that got me "hooked." I got one for Christmas in '75, and it was the first model I made a "serious" effort on. The local supermarket (my only source of paint) didn't carry OD, so I went with the spray-bomb silver finish. I painted the interior with an approximate mix of "zinc chromate green" based on the box photos, although the only paints I had were gloss..the little Testor's square bottles (less than a quarter each at the time.)

My Fort got a makeover in the summer of '77, whe I saw a real B-17 for the first time. We went to an airshow at Selfridge Field, featuring the CAF. After we got home, I re-vamped my B-17 as Texas Raiders..removing the turrets and repainting her in that puke green camo (by this time I'd discovered a hobby shop, and had access to military flat paints.) I think one engine may still survive in one of my junk parts boxes. I've since switched over to 1/72 scale exclusively, but will always have fond memories of the Monogram Fort.

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Wade, thanks for sharing the pic. I was not familiar with the story of Chow Hound. I guess one good thing about the aircraft being a model kit is that perhaps their memory and story was carried on.

Here is a great page detailing the history of the 1/48 B-17.

http://www.swannysmodels.com/B17G.html

Zane... I love your pic of the models! :D I did a similar one in my driveway years ago.

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It sucked when monogran and Revell stopped putting the painting over the box tops and used photos.
That AV art was some of the best!!
I built the regular and visible B-17G along with the visible Huey and P-51.

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It is because of that kit that I am doing what I am today. I was building a B-17 and was trying to add some weathering. The next day was Nov 11, and Sentimental Journey was going to fly down the parade route. I rode my bike to the parade and watched the B-17 fly over, and then it did something different, it turn to sky harbor and landed. I heard on the new that night that there was going to be a new pilot shop opening at skyharbor, and that the B-17 was going to be there. I rode my bike, it was 15 miles each way, I got there early the next day, and there was the B-17, but no crew, after about a hr a few showed up and as they were setting up, I was asking questions. I guess they got tired of the questions and let me in and asked me to help them set up. That was thier biggest mistake, as I have been playing with warbirds ever since.

I have 3 monogram B-17s on the shelf, 2 visiable B-17s and 1 regular.
BTW, the Visiable B-17 is back on the shelves, if you missed one 20yrs ago, now is time to get one.


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Ztex,

Crop that photo and you could post it on the web calling it something like "Aerial view of Pima Air Museum circa 1978" LOL!


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Somebody say Monogram?

I loved the Monogram lineup...

I was no great modeler, but it taught me WWII aircraft recognition fairly well.

48 scale! (for the most part) @ 1978 - the rest were hanging from the ceiling...I can't seem to find that picture.
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Monogram B17G in 301st BG colors hanging above my comp to the right a bit and the Revell B17F in 91st BG markings flying wing forward and to the left a bit.

I grew up on the Monogram stuff. The P51B "Ding Hao!" 1/48th kit is still in my mind, the best kit for the buck ever made.


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Aerial view of Pima Air Museum circa 1978"

No way Jose!!
That's the final scene from Die Hard II :shock: :twisted:

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Nice sqn. Zane. Way to go Matt!

In about 1963 or 64 I built a "Memphis Belle" model. I guess that it would have been 1:48 from the size of it. It dominated the top of the big dresser where my models sat, (safely out of my younger brother's reach). I can't rememer the mfr. though. Monogram? Revell? I built a lot of both brands and later got somewhat into Airfix before diverting into cool cars.
As for the box top art, I think it was generally pretty awesome. However, in the sixties, I built a Spitfire kit, brand and Mk unknown that was a badly printed image of a green/gray a/c. The color saturation was off so it came out brown and blue. Knowing no better, I painted it brown and blue (URP!)
It was a birthday gift and my grandfather taught me how to say "Achtung, Spitfeuer!"
I'm kinda back into 1/72 fighters. Got my own bogus sqn marks and numbers. Although if I had decal making software, material or whatever is the correct term here, I'd have a go at Lone Star's a/c.

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TonyM wrote:
A great model kit.

Since 1975, I've built dozens of them--many of them for paying customers. Currently, I have one hanging in the Calumet City Historical Society and two flying around my office/library.

I also have at least seven unbuilt examples (in the box) waiting for the B-17G assembly line diorama that I am going to build. I also have three unbuilt Revell B-17F models, one of which will be used with the Koster Aero B-17C conversion kit.

The Monogram B-17G is a great model kit. Easy to build and great looking right out of the box and amazing potential with all the aftermarket stuff out there or old fashion scratch building.
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