Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:18 pm
Digger
First and foremost I have not changed my opinion about psudonyms - I DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM - everybody knows who I am where I live and what I stand for. They may or may not like it but it is out there and up front as are you. Robert often posts and uses his name when he has something to say. As I said without him Many aircraft would now be drink cans and I respect him for that. As with most people legends build but fact is often a lot more boring and as you may or may not know you can ring Robert up and ask him and he will let you have a look at the workshop - I did and Tony Andrews did - To some people Robert is Jungle Bob - I have heard people call him that - Not to his face but they did call him that - I don't know what he thinks about it. I would rather talk about P47s with him however the myth of Jungle Bob obviously lives on and we have someone now using it as a Handle. I would rather they use it as there handle and sign their posts with their name but I can't make them do that
Digger I also support a lot of people who don't agree with everything I believe in. The issue is they also do things I do agree with. For instance on the issue of bringing home the remains of dead pilots quite a few people disagreed with me - I would have liked to change their minds but at the end of the day they do things and say things I do support - do I dissagree with them about everything just because they won't own up to who they are - No I don't like it and I think as always have said they should say who they are but if they offer something I don't reject it either.
One thing I can't stomach however is people hiding behind a false identity and then attacking a forum member in a cowardly abdication of Morality - that is a killer for me and a big enough excuse to permanently have them off my list of respected comentators.
Please don't take this as a criticism of you - Irespect your knowledge and opinions - I just answered honestly your query.
John Parker
First and foremost I have not changed my opinion about psudonyms - I DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM - everybody knows who I am where I live and what I stand for. They may or may not like it but it is out there and up front as are you. Robert often posts and uses his name when he has something to say. As I said without him Many aircraft would now be drink cans and I respect him for that. As with most people legends build but fact is often a lot more boring and as you may or may not know you can ring Robert up and ask him and he will let you have a look at the workshop - I did and Tony Andrews did - To some people Robert is Jungle Bob - I have heard people call him that - Not to his face but they did call him that - I don't know what he thinks about it. I would rather talk about P47s with him however the myth of Jungle Bob obviously lives on and we have someone now using it as a Handle. I would rather they use it as there handle and sign their posts with their name but I can't make them do that
Digger I also support a lot of people who don't agree with everything I believe in. The issue is they also do things I do agree with. For instance on the issue of bringing home the remains of dead pilots quite a few people disagreed with me - I would have liked to change their minds but at the end of the day they do things and say things I do support - do I dissagree with them about everything just because they won't own up to who they are - No I don't like it and I think as always have said they should say who they are but if they offer something I don't reject it either.
One thing I can't stomach however is people hiding behind a false identity and then attacking a forum member in a cowardly abdication of Morality - that is a killer for me and a big enough excuse to permanently have them off my list of respected comentators.
Please don't take this as a criticism of you - Irespect your knowledge and opinions - I just answered honestly your query.
John Parker
Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:55 pm
Hmmm..... poor form using someone elses, and for a lot of people, known, non de plume, - means that person inevitably takes the wrap for your opinions, even if the real JB was consulted before hand.
I however understand that some need to remain unidentified to the majority of folks on a forum.
Dave
I however understand that some need to remain unidentified to the majority of folks on a forum.
Dave
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:02 pm
Hello:
This is starting to sound like a soap opera. Leave JungleBob alone. If he wants to remain anonymous let him do so. Keep in mind this is a public forum, and all of our words are recorded here and we are responsible for them. A few may not be ready for that.
This is starting to sound like a soap opera. Leave JungleBob alone. If he wants to remain anonymous let him do so. Keep in mind this is a public forum, and all of our words are recorded here and we are responsible for them. A few may not be ready for that.
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:32 pm
Sorry Rob:
We're in the public domain, leave the guy alone.
We're in the public domain, leave the guy alone.
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:39 pm
Rob:
Are you his mom? Leave him alone.
Are you his mom? Leave him alone.
Post Subject
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:41 pm
I have to agree, in part with Rohr on this one, as for ;
[i]"One thing I can't stomach however is people hiding behind a false identity and then attacking a forum member in a cowardly abdication of Morality - that is a killer for me and a big enough excuse to permanently have them off my list of respected comentators."[/i]
not sure what or who you are directing this comment to, and I can't say I've read an example of it either, but I am relatively new to this site. What I can say is I have read and do understand the rules for using this forum but I also believe there are some underlying principals here to. If that makes me moralistic? then were does honesty fit in (nowhere I guess). All I'm saying is that a lot of people have used and continue to use this forum as a way of expanding their knowledge base with regards to Warbirds etc. If people are not going to come out and confirm who they are and how they fit in to the big picture, then they should be ignored. I'd like to know that information I have forwarded to several parties via this forum is not used for commercial gains, but rather helped another individual achieve a goal or ambition of doing the research and completing that with a successful recovery.
If Jungle Bob is using someone elses handle, it should be stopped, because I do agree that reputations should be protected and most certainly if someone was doing it to me and I found out about it, I would most definately be making a comment and setting the Public record straight. Finally, just because someone has hundreds of posts dosn't make them right all the time, but I agree that we are entitled to disagree, however respectfully!
Digger
(aka Peter Smythe)
[i]"One thing I can't stomach however is people hiding behind a false identity and then attacking a forum member in a cowardly abdication of Morality - that is a killer for me and a big enough excuse to permanently have them off my list of respected comentators."[/i]
not sure what or who you are directing this comment to, and I can't say I've read an example of it either, but I am relatively new to this site. What I can say is I have read and do understand the rules for using this forum but I also believe there are some underlying principals here to. If that makes me moralistic? then were does honesty fit in (nowhere I guess). All I'm saying is that a lot of people have used and continue to use this forum as a way of expanding their knowledge base with regards to Warbirds etc. If people are not going to come out and confirm who they are and how they fit in to the big picture, then they should be ignored. I'd like to know that information I have forwarded to several parties via this forum is not used for commercial gains, but rather helped another individual achieve a goal or ambition of doing the research and completing that with a successful recovery.
If Jungle Bob is using someone elses handle, it should be stopped, because I do agree that reputations should be protected and most certainly if someone was doing it to me and I found out about it, I would most definately be making a comment and setting the Public record straight. Finally, just because someone has hundreds of posts dosn't make them right all the time, but I agree that we are entitled to disagree, however respectfully!
Digger
(aka Peter Smythe)
Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:48 pm
Hi Peter
Well said - I entirely agree with you. The pop I had at cowards dates back to some best forgotten rubbish years ago which has largely ceased now.
Kindest regards
John P
Well said - I entirely agree with you. The pop I had at cowards dates back to some best forgotten rubbish years ago which has largely ceased now.
Kindest regards
John P
Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:40 pm
To return to the topic, I would assume its probably a replica (See the Texas Air Mueseum Fw 190s thread, it talks about Ki 51 replicas by Mr. Laing). So, I highly doubt its a real Ki 44.
Sombody PLEASE prove me wrong. I would REALLY like to see a REAL Ki 44 (Tojo, I believe).
Sombody PLEASE prove me wrong. I would REALLY like to see a REAL Ki 44 (Tojo, I believe).
Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:04 am
To return to the topic, I would assume its probably a replica (See the Texas Air Mueseum Fw 190s thread, it talks about Ki 51 replicas by Mr. Laing). So, I highly doubt its a real Ki 44.
Sombody PLEASE prove me wrong. I would REALLY like to see a REAL Ki 44 (Tojo, I believe).
Wolverine, you and others think too much. I told you the facts, and you've decided to make an assumption contradicting what I've said.
Let me say it again, Mr. Laing posted an ad on Barnstormers and said "Need Ki-44 Parts for Ki-44 project". I called him at home, and he said "the parts are from a Ki-44 recovered from Indonesia". What part of this don't you understand?
Chris
Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:19 am
ok heres the ad
JAPANESE FIGHTER • PARTS WANTED • Require any and all parts for a Nakajima Ki-44 TOJO. Client wants this project to proceed! No part to big or small, let me know what you have. • Contact Malcolm Laing - located Lubbock, TX USA • Telephone: 8068632118 • Posted January 20, 2004 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend
and rob you need to watch what your saying, rob g is one of the most helpful people in the business unlike you greedy american bastards.
for those who dont know who this is your idiots.
never have i seen so much bitching and im the one that gets banned?
)
feel free to do as the name says now.
JAPANESE FIGHTER • PARTS WANTED • Require any and all parts for a Nakajima Ki-44 TOJO. Client wants this project to proceed! No part to big or small, let me know what you have. • Contact Malcolm Laing - located Lubbock, TX USA • Telephone: 8068632118 • Posted January 20, 2004 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend
and rob you need to watch what your saying, rob g is one of the most helpful people in the business unlike you greedy american bastards.
for those who dont know who this is your idiots.
never have i seen so much bitching and im the one that gets banned?
)
feel free to do as the name says now.
Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:36 am
Ok everybody, relax. Take a deep breath. We all have a lot in common, so we don't need to get so excited.
Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:07 am
Col. Rohr wrote:banmeplease wrote:and rob you need to watch what your saying, rob g is one of the most helpful people in the business unlike you greedy american bastards.
Hey Tristan/Homer,
Yup I'm a Gready American Bastard whats wrong are you a tad little Jealous. I'm sure Rob G. doesn' need you to do his speaking for him.
If Rob wants to come on and dispute what I and others have said then he can I doult he will but then again I've been proven wrong before.
As for you My Mis-Guide Youngster I think you need to run along home your Mommy is calling you for Dinner and your late Sonny boy.
i haven't spoken to rob in ages, doubt he reads this board or knows of your thread or even cares, but your comments are just complete sugar and undeserved so i had to say something.
i doubt he would bother coming on and disputing some fantasy sugar problem you have
we both know i can kick your tushy rob, so i don't need to say anything about your childish comments about me
why arnt i banned yet???
Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:36 am
Guys,
Shall we leave it at that please?
Talking about aircraft and associated things is much more fun and doesn't cost as much energy.
And give Rob Greinert a break, what he has done so far and will be doing in the future is nothing short of magnificent. Words mean nothing, but actions do.
Calm down will you?
Cees
Shall we leave it at that please?
Talking about aircraft and associated things is much more fun and doesn't cost as much energy.
And give Rob Greinert a break, what he has done so far and will be doing in the future is nothing short of magnificent. Words mean nothing, but actions do.
Calm down will you?
Cees
Ki44 History
Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:07 am
From another source, there was a Ki44 in the Solomon Islands, which disappeared, and evidently got some of the locals agitated. It evidently was one of the events which led to the present "climate" for recoveries in that region. The Ki44 is one of the "lost" aircraft of WWII and I hope Malcolm is able to get it together. But hard aircraft to do due to the way it was built, etc.
And for the children needing a spanking here on the forum, you all get a Forgotten Field Time Out- ask my 7 year old what this is like. It's amazing what a little time under a rucksack walking at quick-time pace does to the attitude of an offender.
And for the children needing a spanking here on the forum, you all get a Forgotten Field Time Out- ask my 7 year old what this is like. It's amazing what a little time under a rucksack walking at quick-time pace does to the attitude of an offender.
Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:45 am
Col. Rohr wrote:[quote="banmeplease
we both know i can kick your tushy rob, so i don't need to say anything about your childish comments about me
why arnt i banned yet???
Tristan, Tristan, Tristan
Well Son I guess you might get that chance when I come down to visit John in the fall. Anyone want to start the Hype now and whats the open line
.Oh Tristan is this going to be falls count everywhere or a Steel Cage match.
As for you being rebanned hey Scott let the little Puke stay around for awhile he adds entertainment to the discussions.
As for you not talking with the Rob G. thats not what you've been stating in your post and the e-mails you've sent me.
So I'm now in training folks for the Great Smackdown DownUnder.
Cheers
RER[/quote]
son? ... anytime you want a run idiot, you have my email, my phone is 61 439416335 give me a time and place ill be there waitin.
this is gonna be fun
everytime you call me son you get an extra boot
