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Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:00 am

Dam post office must have revived their three legged donkey, still waiting here at the edge of the Pacific Ocean :(

I found one!

Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:47 am

Hi guys,
I was looking through the airplane magazines at my local Borders bookstore in Costa Mesa,California. And there before me was the latest issue of Warbird digest.Of course I purchased it and hurried home to read it .I enjoyed it very much,A first rate product. Tim. :shock:

Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:27 pm

Roger Cain wrote:Dam post office must have revived their three legged donkey, still waiting here at the edge of the Pacific Ocean :(


We are having meeting with the USPS this week to find out what is going on. I am not sure they know...but they are trying to sort it out. Magazines mailed under a periodical permit are supposed to be treated as first class according to our USPS rep, but some local offices are not doing so, apparently.
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:05 pm

Thanks for the info Tim. I tend to think it's a problem here in my area. I have the same problem with the Challenge Puublications, my buddy in San Jose (20 miles away) gets his rags anywhere from three days to a week before I get mine.

Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:49 pm

HAVNT SEEN MINE EITHER THANKS MIKE :cry:

Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:55 am

Roger Cain wrote:Thanks for the info Tim. I tend to think it's a problem here in my area. I have the same problem with the Challenge Puublications, my buddy in San Jose (20 miles away) gets his rags anywhere from three days to a week before I get mine.


You have to allow time for the post office guys to read em

Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:26 am

Just wanted to say that I found my first Warbirds Digest at Barnes & Noble yesterday and I immediately bought it without flipping through it first. I had actually gone to the store for the sole purpose of finding it, so I was buying it no matter what.

I have had it for two days and still haven't gotten through all the articles but it is without a doubt the best magazine on the stand. I really like the emphasis on the airframe itself instead of mostly type history with a quick airframe blurb.

I did notice two things though on the Gallant Warriors list. It says that there are no A-20s flyable and 2 flyable P-39s. I think just based on the airframes counted further on, that there should be 1 A-20 listed and 3 P-39s if you include the Lone Star A-20 and the Yanks P-39. Just something to keep it accurate for the masses that wouldn't remember those like us nuts.

Gorgeous magazine though with absolutely wonderful photography.

Ryan

Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:04 am

Ryan

I respect you imensely but I am older than you and two things about your post.

1) Etiquet is to read a magazine in a bookstore preferably AFTER you have eaten a hotdog/ice cream/watermelon and grubby it up so much the pages stick together and then leave it on the shelf and buy your copy somewhere else and treat it with respect OR at least pick up a fresh copy and buy that and ask the assistant to put it in a bag so it doesn't get dirty.

2) Read faster - how can you last in a bookstore if you have to be there for two days just to get free reading on one mag!!!!

Kindest regards
John P

Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:05 am

Ryan Harris wrote:I did notice two things though on the Gallant Warriors list. It says that there are no A-20s flyable and 2 flyable P-39s. I think just based on the airframes counted further on, that there should be 1 A-20 listed and 3 P-39s if you include the Lone Star A-20 and the Yanks P-39.

Ryan,

I don't believe that the Yanks P-39 has ever flown. If it ain't flown, it ain't flyable!

Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:20 am

Hello Ryan, so glad you liked the magazine, and thank you for your comments. As Mike mentioned, Dennis tries to maintain, as accurately as possible, a comprehensive list of aircraft that are actively flown. The Lone Star A-20 hasn't been flown for a number of years, and surely would require some work (annual, major servicing, etc.) to get it flyable, therefore it is included in the 'stored or status unkown' catagory. Also as Mike says, while the Yank's P-39 may have been restored to airworthy, to the best of my knowledge, it has not actually flown, and so it is also listed as such. I hope this explanation helps. Dennis goes through great pains to keep his list as updated as is possible, but as you can imagine, this is a very difficult task. Thanks for supporting the magazine! Stay tuned.... :) Jim

Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:43 am

Well I agree with that about the P-39 and A-20 but then further down the list, the Sunderland is listed as airworthy and it hasn't been flown in who knows how long. That was the only reason I found to justify mentioning the '39 and A-20.

I totally respect the fact that Dennis really strives to keep that list up. I think it is an awesome task and one that could have many definitions for the word flyable as in this case.

Mike said that "if it ain't flown, it ain't flyable." Thats where we run into it again. All of Yanks airplanes are "flyable" but none are "flying". LOL. What a mess of a hobby we have. Its just like the replica/new build/ whatever discussion.

Ryan

Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:25 pm

ITS HERE!!!! :D

Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:33 pm

Tim,

That three legged donkey arrived here on the West Coast today. Although they folded it in half to get it in my mail slot, I'm glad to have it. Just got home from school, so now I can check it out :D
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