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Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:14 pm

When I was a kid they called them the "bomber version of the DC-3." Not exactly accurate , but how cool would it be to see one making a high speed pass with bombays open and guns manned?!!
Another plus is that the B-23 has better speed and range than the DC-3 and could carry cargo or be used for actual missions like bringing back aircraft parts from remote areas of the globe.
I would have to buy a ride if one ever goes on the airshow circuit!

Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:29 pm

Just read this thread for the first time and didn't see any of the CAF's B-23 in flyable condition. Here's some from 1981:

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Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:27 am

So the CAF's example did wear all Aluminum!

Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:53 am

Those silly Cajuns were way ahead of there time...........notice the CAF decal on the plane. Now if it was only the winged logo they would have gotten it right and would probably still be flying with all the attention that brings to a plane(priceless museum artifact inserted here)

Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:36 am

Obergrafeter wrote:Those silly Cajuns were way ahead of there time...........notice the CAF decal on the plane. Now if it was only the winged logo they would have gotten it right and would probably still be flying with all the attention that brings to a plane(priceless museum artifact inserted here)


The CAF logo on tail was hand painted by one of our Cajun Wing members, & Garbs thanks for posting the pics from 81. That looks like me at the tail of the airplane cleaning the tail gunners Lexan. :D
Robbie

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:43 am

Cool to see the flying picture. At the time she was flying, I remember thinking, "That airplane is kinda boring" ... little did I know how rare a site it was.

Some pics I have posted before...but what the heck...

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Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:30 pm

Back to bluehawks post....What is a joggle? :?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:38 pm

Robbie Stuart wrote
thanks for posting the pics from 81. That looks like me at the tail of the airplane cleaning the tail gunners Lexan.


Who'd have thought you'd see yourself again 27 years later? :)

I'm posting more from 1981 on the "Digging into the archives" thread.

Nice shots ztex - she still looked pretty intact in '84.

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:53 pm

Blackwing wrote:Back to bluehawks post....What is a joggle? :?


Blackwing-
To answer your (and Bluehawks) question, a joggle is a slight Z shaped bend in a piece of sheet metal to allow for varying thickness (or overlapping) of adjacent parts.

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-Pat

Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:18 pm

i think that its a darn awesome looking aircraft and any museum that lucky enough to get it will have a real treasure on its hands. sure, its gonna need some work, but when it done people are gonna love it. it would be interesting if it was taken back to a true bomber configuration, to help show the development of bombers in the early days although i've read that they were never actually used as bombers during the war. i wouldnt think that everything would have to be serial number correct to do this either. a mere representation would satisfy 99% of the people that were attracted to a plane like this. like gary said, lets focus on the positive and try to push this bird a bit. its pretty cool and there arent many around!! i had no idea that less than 40 of them were ever built.

Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:19 am

groundpounder wrote: although i've read that they were never actually used as bombers during the war.


I listened to a former B-29 pilot this past summer and he spoke about flying a B-23 directly after the Pearl Harbor attack searching for U-boats in the Atlantic.
After the attack he was called back to base, and "thrown" into a B-23 and told to go look for subs.

I believe he said it was in New England.

Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:29 am

hmmm. Thanks for the "joggle" info. It would appear that that would be fairly easy to make. We make those all the time. We just call it (along with the tooling manufacturer) a "z" bend. They are fairly easy to make. Standard large nose radius press brake "z" bend tooling. How big was the Joggle needed when work was stopped? 14' foot is easy with most down acting brakes. Was the one needed longer"?
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