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Maybe there's a chance to see this one let go to a private collector one day.

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Wow, the article says it took 18 years to restore after it was recovered from the Kuril islands! I'm so glad that the Russians are going to take such great care of that restoration by placing it on outside static display. Those Russian winters won't be too bad for it!

Hey WBK,

Theres a privately owned one less than 5 minutes from where I'm sitting right now (if I don't make the lights) . Unfortunately the FHC (P. ALLEN) has determined the airframe is so rare and valuable that, along with the DORA, it won't be flown.
You can probably find a Tischler 'built' one after going through GOSHAWK to make it safe and not an accident report going somewhere to happen, out there some place.

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18 years?!?! Wow! We had better make a start on ours then, or else I'll be retired before first flight...

Very cool. Here is the Babel Fish translation:

Today on The [poklonnaya] mountain in Moscow they presented the miracle of military restoration. For the restoration of Japanese aircraft “[Khayabusa]” (“falcon”) were required 18 years. Components found in 1990 on the island [Shumshu] - in the region it smoked, where the fighter was hit even 1945- m. The parts of the fuselage, wings and engine crossed into Moscow. Aviation- restoration group was occupied by the missing components, it transfers by NTV. Result, as they assure, completely [autentichen]. “[Khayabusa]”, or Ki-43, was one of the basic Japanese fighters of the second world. One-place monoplane was armed with two machine guns and it took onboard two 250 - kilogram of bomb. Its maximum speed was 530 kilometers in hour.

In former Soviet Union many of the airplanes was abandoned and dispersed in the wide area. I know that I talk about that with one friend in Russia, air force officer, and he talk that they still don't know where is dissapeared all of the Spitfires, Fw190 as well many other airplanes. They have some kind of custom simply to leave plane in some remote place and later forget about it. For a years I looking for the post war service of A6M and finally i should have to go in one small town with very rich archive and to have info about it. As I hear at least one is used for communication in the some remote area but still have no any reference material.

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And which Hayabusa would that be? Which museum are you affiliated with?

I'm interested in learning more, too. Here's a YouTube Video and some web photos. Lots of new material!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVIITyLqIxc

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photo/Japa ... id=1229986

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photo/Unti ... id=1169366

http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Ja ... Moscow.jpg

That Oscar looks SO fake, it's not even funny! The canopy is wrong, tailfeathers, engine and prop look weird. I realize they didn't have any blueprints, but it looks like a typical Russian warbird restoration with about half real, original parts, and the other half completely fabricated fantasy mock-up.

If Herb Tischler and the TAF could make a real, authentic looking Oscar, why couldn't the Russians? Dang, you would think in 18 years, they could have gotten it right.

that camo paint style looks a little over done from other oscars i've seen.....

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Hi Warbird1,
You said, "If Herb Tischler and the TAF could make a real, authentic looking Oscar, why couldn't the Russians?"

Herb had an advantage... Katsushi Owaki, Jim Long, and I translated the OSCAR I and OSCAR III manual, and we had located a detailed (for Allied Tech Intell could do) investigation of the OSCAR II.
Cheers,
David

Nice, David, I didn't know you had any involvement in the TAF Oscars! Besides things such as the engine, and internal systems, how accurate would you estimate the basic structures of the TAF Oscars were to the originals?

Also, did the Russian museum contact you or Herb for technical help?

Been to TAF three times, the first to see the Me262 project at its end, viewed the newly arrived OSCARS, and delivered the Ki-43 manual tramslation; the second with Katsushi Owaki and saw the progress [the Ki-43 fuselage formers], he went further into Herb's questions on the manual translation, and he made color analysis on the airframes; and the following year K. Owaki and I visited again. Sorry, I did not measure the formers for accuracy, yet generally they looked good.

Shinpachi gave an update on the Moscow "Hayabusa":

"It is the type of "Ki-43-IIIb". Recovery in 1990. Seven years ago in part to restore a piece of wing. Moscow's Museum of World War II exhibition with a hardware engine 115. May 2008 to complete the restoration for now. Moscow now has been exhibited in the fuselage and Undercarrige is a mock-up yet. Will be replaced at a later date. Spinner currently produced.

"Nakajima Ki-27 also will be restored. Airframe and engine (c 1 B) Paper and the cockpit (drawings, notes theory) sought."