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Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:08 pm

B-17G's were:
44-83563 - N9563Z was a VB-17G staff transport.
44-83811 - ex-Israeli AF.
44-83877 - N5232V was a PB-1W.
44-83883 - N5229V was a PB-1W.

S.Beck

Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:06 pm

Thank you to all for all the data points.

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:58 pm

Chris Brame wrote:Lots of good information right here:

http://www.aerovintage.com/warlover.htm

IIRC one of the Forts was used in TV series 12 O'Clock High. Isn't is also one and the same as the Picadilly Lilly being restored at Chino?

The web link didn't mention that everyone was arrested in Portugal a.) for not having a Visa and b.) having 50 caliber guns on board.

IIRC the Navy 17s were at Dallas Love Field serving as bird and snake condo's and they found a set of Ball Turrets in a Culver City movie studio warehouse.

Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:21 pm

None of the War Lover birds were associated with 12 O'Clock High.

As for Caidin's account in Everything But the Flak, it sure was good reading.

I did a review of the book also at the aerovintage site located here:

http://www.aerovintage.com/review.htm#flak

using my well-worn and well-torn vintage copy for the graphic.

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:50 pm

I gotta get that book. Read it several times from the library. A favorite from my child and teen years. Just brilliant!!!

John
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