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Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:19 pm

The P-51 in the RNZAF Museum came from the Indonesian Airforce.

Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:40 pm

A little off subject, but I saw on a website that Garry Larkins traded a PBY to the Indonesian A.F. Museum for salvage rights at Babo!

Chris

F-51's

Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:51 am

I think there is quite a few of those F-51's over there.
I saw some news clip recently with a couple on poles red white and blue verry nice.
I recon John Parker is your man.
Mick

Indonesian Warbirds; the Harvards

Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:49 am

The two Harvards being operated by the Indonesian Historic Flight are B-423 and B-475. 423 is a Noorduyn AT-16-ND Harvard IIB, a former Netherlands East Indies machine. B-475 is a Harvard IV; although I do have confirmation, from a pilots-logbook, that B-475 existed in the mid 50s, I doubt if this is the original one. I have never seen any proof that Indonesia used Mk.IVs. I only know about MK. IIBs and early type AT-6s. Anyone having further details in this ?

Regards,

Benno Goethals, Netherlands

Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:12 am

There currently are 7 (seven) F-51's on display in Indonesia.

Martin

Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:05 pm

LOL!

It was an appellation given to me by a US Government 'Official' on the Ostfront back in the day.

One day I'll bore you about how close we came to getting a Mig 29UB . The price was 1,000,000 US , and a certain well known US car dealer , gave serious consideration to forming a syndicate to buy the bloody thing . Madman :D

Anyway , we happened to mention in the Marine Bar at the US embassy in Warsaw this airframe might be available, and the next thing we knew , a very useful looking gentleman introduced himself , and asked if we could really obtain one .(This was pre the Bulgarian? deal)

I said yes, we've been quoted a million bucks , spare powerplants included and other bits and bobs. The upshot is the Russian end decided not to go ahead. I presume because a body gets mighty lonely staring at the Siberian scenery all day long. The US 'official' was quite closely involved , and was a pretty good guy. Unusually for an American he could drink too:D He was fascinated by the whole warbird hunting thing, and where we had been ,thought it was pretty cool and that's how I ended up being called Indiana

Still, we got the Iskaras :D We were offered Mi24's as well at 200k. In those days, if you had the cash, anything was possible. It was a very exciting time .

I do miss it so.

Nowadays I'm still prepared to go hunting for that elusive rare bird, just as long as the Pilot bellied it in no more than 200 yards from the Hotel bar.

No, I've never been to Indiana, but they tell me it's nice :D

Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:15 am

While some may debate if it is an American type due to its engine and country of manufacture the TNI-AU (Indonesian Airforce) also recieved a couple of dozen Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation Avon Sabres. 18 were recieved as a gift from the Australian Government in 1973 and a further 5 from Malaysia in 1976 (of 18 similarly gifted to Malaysia). A number are still on display in Indonesia but I believe there are quite a number of them sitting at Aerotrader at Chino awaiting buyers!
see http://www.adf-serials.com/2a94.shtml
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