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Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:12 pm
That pic of the Constitution was a real shock! Where & when was it taken?
<edit> According to Wiki, the second prototype languished at Opa Laca, Fla, until it was scrapped in 1978. Amazing that it survived that late, and wasn't preserved..I know it was a huge bird, but judging by that pic, the NMNA has some in worse shape sitting out back.
SN
Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:22 pm
GREAT shots, Rich! I was almost thinking these belonged in the "Vintage Aviation" forum until I saw the R6V Constitution and the DC-4/C-54.
I love the Connie with the remains of the late TWA markings and the Super Connie with the very faded remains of the late EAL markings.
Did the Constitution end up scrapped? You answered the question - 1978
Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:00 pm
Thanks for the shot of the Opa Locka Constitution - the only other shot of it I've seen was in Air Classics' "Warbird Report" showing it partly dismantled. The caption mentioned that it had been there since 1962 when a fire gutted the interior. There was a long banner hanging on the port side reading something like "Constitution - International Permanent Pavilion Exhibit" - did you see it?
Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:06 pm
I'll bet the guy who runs the Connie web site would really appreciate those Constellation pictures...
http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-connie_news.htm
Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:06 pm
Sorry, I didn't mention that if you right-click and do "save as", the file name is when and where it was taken.
Rich
Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:08 pm
Steve Nelson wrote:That pic of the Constitution was a real shock! Where & when was it taken?
<edit> According to Wiki, the second prototype languished at Opa Laca, Fla, until it was scrapped in 1978. Amazing that it survived that late, and wasn't preserved..I know it was a huge bird, but judging by that pic, the NMNA has some in worse shape sitting out back.
SN
It was indeed at Opa Locka, March 1977. I really was taking a shot of my Dad's 1970 Torino wagon, and that just happened to be in the background.
Rich
Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:12 pm
In that first shot, you might notice the C-82 underneath the departing 737.
Also, does anyone know what the seal is on the one C-54? I think it says USDA, so I guess it was a Department of Agriculture bird?
Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:39 am
Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:24 pm
What mustang is 44-73489 ?? is it still with us ??
Steve
Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:59 pm
Love the F-4 shots, thanks.
Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:17 pm
We spent alot of Saturdays on drives around NJ way back when - many of them ended up at the end of the runway at McGuire AFB to watch the Guard guys fly. Most of my childhood, they were flying the F-105B, but I do distinctly remember the F-4 too. I left the area in '86 - probably never got to see the jets wear grey, come to think of it. Thanks for sharing the photos.
Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:25 pm
Steve wrote:What mustang is 44-73489 ?? is it still with us ??
Steve
Sadly, no. This is NL51JL and crashed fatally in '84 killing pilot Jack Levine.
http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/p51who/301.shtml
Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:36 pm
richkolasa wrote:
Very likely Unlimited Leasing's (Mac McKindry (sp.) N6021C which plied its trade throughout the Caribbean and Central America in the mid- late 70s. Later sold off and cought with 36.000 lbs of marijuana in Panama City, FL. Went to Aerochago in the Dominican Republic where it was used until 1988 when it was dbr. in a heavy landing. Later scrapped.
T J
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