Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:13 am
Robbie Roberts wrote:I know a kid(20s) that just flew back from the holidays out west, and realized a couple days after he got back that he'd flown with a small box cutter on his keyring! It was in a case shaped like a key, made out of plastic. Flip it over, and it had one of those 1/4" wide box cutter blades which has the snap-off segments... Wonder if he'd still be in stir if they found that... But then again, makes you wonder how they missed it!
Robbie
Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:48 am
warbird1 wrote:Thanks for the clarifications JDK. I was going from my not so perfect memory.
Anyways, my point remains. Politicians make wide sweeping broadly interpreted laws which can have far reaching consequences way beyond their initial intentions. That is the danger in this case with this proposal.
Someone associated with Pink Lady wrote a thread about the grounding of their B-17 some time last year, stating that that season was to be it's last. I haven't heard anything since. Is it still operating or not?
It's probably best you don't know how effective the TSA really is. It would scare the public to know the real truth.
Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:16 am
Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:00 am
spookythecat wrote:It was mentioned at the Cascade Warbirds meeting that stricter policies weren't put into place after the Oklahoma City bombing. Maybe every person renting a U-Haul for the weekend needs the same background check.
Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:09 am
Bill Greenwood wrote: But, if you really took a look at the danger then there is a lot more potential for someone misusing a G5 that is as big as and faster than an airliner, and can fly higher and IFR. Something like a Skyraider really is not the same threat.
Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:28 am
Bill Greenwood wrote:there is a lot more potential for someone misusing a G5 that is as big as and faster than an airliner, and can fly higher and IFR. Something like a Skyraider really is not the same threat.
Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:55 pm
Dominick Caridi
Director, Regulatory & Economic Analysis
Washington D.C. Metro Area
Current Director, Regulatory & Economic Analysis at Transportation Security Administration
Chief Economist & Director Reg Devel & Econ Anal at TSA/DHS
Past Principal Economist at United States Postal Service
Education New School University
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Dominick Caridi’s Experience
Director, Regulatory & Economic Analysis
Transportation Security Administration
(Government Agency; 10,001 or more employees; Government Administration industry)
May 2008 — Present (9 months)
Chief Economist & Director Reg Devel & Econ Anal
TSA/DHS
(Government Administration industry)
2006 — Present (3 years)
Principal Economist
United States Postal Service
(Government Agency; 10,001 or more employees; Government Administration industry)
September 1970 — May 2006 (35 years 9 months)
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Dominick Caridi’s Education
New School University
1972 — 1975
Vicki Reeder
Asst General Manager - General Aviation at Transportation Security Administration
Washington D.C. Metro Area
Current Asst General Manager - General Aviation at Transportation Security Administration
Education USNA
Industry Airlines/Aviation
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Vicki Reeder’s Experience
Asst General Manager - General Aviation
Transportation Security Administration
Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:02 pm
Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:19 pm
ICAS ENCOURAGES MEMBERS TO OFFER COMMENTS ON NPRM
Some of the air show industry’s largest warbird aircraft would be dramatically impacted by a new “Large Aircraft Security Program” that has been proposed by the Transportation Security Administration. The deadline for public comments on this proposal is February 27, 2009. ICAS encourages all of its members to familiarize themselves with the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) and make comments prior to the February 27 deadline. Aircraft impacted by this proposed rule would include DC3s, B-17s, B-25s, Skyraiders, some Korean War-era jet fighters, and any other aircraft with a take-off weight greater than 12,500 pounds.
“As an industry, we need to be aware that this rule has the potential to do away with the active air show participation of a whole class of warbirds,” says ICAS President John Cudahy. “The operators of these aircraft are aware of the threat, but the rest of the air show community needs to become involved and express their concerns about the impact of this proposal.”
Operators would be required to provide criminal-history-record checks, including the fingerprinting of all flight crews. The names of all passengers would be checked against the government’s "No-Fly" list for every flight. Additional screening, similar to that at commercial airports, would be required of all passengers prior to boarding the aircraft, even for a media flight or incentive ride. Administrative and costly third-party security audits would also be required of every aircraft operator.
Comments can be submitted to the Federal Docket Management System several ways:
You can submit your comments electronically by visiting
http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/c ... -2008-0021. To add a comment, click on the top yellow balloon "Add Comments." Fill in your personal information (optional), and type your comments in the "Comments" box or attach a separate document containing your comments. When you are finished, click the "Next Step" button at the bottom of the page. When you are satisfied with your comments, click the "Submit" button at the bottom of the page.
You can also send your comments in via standard mail. Send them directly to Docket Management Facility, U.S. Department of Transportation, 1200 New Jersey Avenue SE, West Building, Ground Floor, Room W12-140, Washington, DC 20590-0001.
Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:22 pm
Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:16 pm
TSA Conducts ‘Inappropriate’ Screening at BNA FBOs
By by Matt Thurber
February 3, 2009
Security, Business Aviation
Transportation Security Administration officials conducted unauthorized screening of passengers and flight crew at FBOs at Nashville International Airport in December and January, according to NBAA. The screening included checking “a number of pilots and passengers with wands and actual baggage searches,” NBAA vice president of safety, security and regulation Doug Carr noted in an e-mail to members.
Signature Flight Support confirmed the accuracy of Carr’s description of events at Nashville. A TSA spokesman told AIN that inspectors “did badge verification of employees and pilots but not any hand-wanding of passengers.
The bag searches, he said, were to make “sure that nothing that poses a threat is in those bags. According to Carr, “We can confirm that based on discussions held with TSA that this kind of screening was inappropriate and should not have happened. The local TSA officials were acting beyond the guidance provided by headquarters.
The TSA effort at Nashville stemmed from a TSA document called the Playbook, which outlined TSA plans for random screenings at FBOs and hangars, originally planned at Bradley International Airport in Windsor Locks, Conn. After NBAA raised concerns about the Playbook, the TSA decided not to go ahead with the Bradley inspections, Carr explained.
Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:02 am
Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:35 am
CAPFlyer wrote:Just an addendum, Steve Brown testified before Congress last week on this program as well.
http://www.commemorativeairforce.org/?p ... b03ed49d81
Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:13 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:31 pm