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USAF out to potentially destroy RAF museum loan bomber

Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:00 pm

In another stupid saga that should never really happen in first place, a RAF Vulcan bomber is on the potential chopping block at a USAF base museum. Due to inspection and substandards as claimed by USAF commands, the 8th AF Barksdale museum is on notice.

It seems the USAF has ability to scrap/destroy this rare Vulcan bomber because it is now under USAF property - not the RAF.
Interesting logic even tho it was gifted as a loan item.

So for comparison, that means all the loaned Duxford US museum aircraft could be scrapped at the whim of the RAF..

More here - http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/ ... 060/NEWS01

I do hope more RAF and English people get annoyed that such a threat could exist for a museum plane which they donated. ... in 1982.

Problem is only the Vulcan is only part of the issue, the museum may loose other planes also if they fail to improve.

Vulcan

Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:37 pm

Just more bad news. What a shame.

Re: USAF out to potentially destroy RAF museum loan bomber

Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:49 pm

flyingheritage wrote:So for comparison, that means all the loaned Duxford US museum aircraft could be scrapped at the whim of the RAF..

Not quite, the RAF don't control Duxford.

Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:34 am

I actually heard that it was getting moved to Wright Pat.

Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:58 am

mustangdriver wrote:I actually heard that it was getting moved to Wright Pat.


I hope that rumor is true! It would make sense to me to have it there. It would be a perfect fit for the Cold War gallery.

Re: USAF out to potentially destroy RAF museum loan bomber

Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:32 am

Some errors here.
flyingheritage wrote:It seems the USAF has ability to scrap/destroy this rare Vulcan bomber because it is now under USAF property - not the RAF.
Interesting logic even tho it was gifted as a loan item.

Not exactly. The responsibilities for loan / gift and nuclear bombers are not as obvious as you imply.
So for comparison, that means all the loaned Duxford US museum aircraft could be scrapped at the whim of the RAF..

No. The RAF have nothing whatsoever to do with the aircraft at the Imperial War Museum, Duxford's American Air Museum. It's also not got anything to do with the case or reality anyway.
I do hope more RAF and English people get annoyed that such a threat could exist for a museum plane which they donated. ... in 1982.

The country's Britain, not England, as you'll have carefully explained to you if you try that with a Welshman or a Scotsman for instance.

I think the British have a plate full of Vulcan at the moment anyway, not to mention the recent scrapping of a UK based example after many years of neglect.

Don't scaremonger if you don't understand most of the story, please.
Problem is only the Vulcan is only part of the issue, the museum may loose other planes also if they fail to improve.

Maybe.

Incidentally, moving a Vulcan in any way than by air is very tricky - they are not easy to take apart.

We haven't seen the last Vulcan scrapped by a long chalk.

Regards,

Vulcan XM606

Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:40 am

I dont have the link handy but do a "google" for XM606 pics and there is a recent gallery showing her overall condition. A dam far cry from a neglencted bird. The volunteers did a wonderful job on her recent repaint and she looks ready to go!

Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:42 pm

mustangdriver wrote:I actually heard that it was getting moved to Wright Pat.


I hope so, that would be super cool. 8)

Re: USAF out to potentially destroy RAF museum loan bomber

Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:57 pm

JDK wrote:The country's Britain, not England, as you'll have carefully explained to you if you try that with a Welshman or a Scotsman for instance.

I think the British have a plate full of Vulcan at the moment anyway, not to mention the recent scrapping of a UK based example after many years of neglect.

Don't scaremonger if you don't understand most of the story, please.

Regards,


There you go with that anti-Americanism AGAIN!!!

Just kidding! :lol: 8)

Rich
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Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:49 pm

So can some one explain to me where the USAF is going to scrap the aircraft? I have heard that if it is not maintained to standards in Shreveport, it is going to be moved to Dayton. I only ask because the title of the thread, is so way off it isn't funny.

Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:03 pm

mustangdriver wrote:I have heard that if it is not maintained to standards in Shreveport, it is going to be moved to Dayton.

How?
I only ask because the title of the thread, is so way off it isn't funny.

Quite.

PS - Rich, the original poster's an Aussie. ;)

Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:17 pm

mustangdriver wrote:So can some one explain to me where the USAF is going to scrap the aircraft? I have heard that if it is not maintained to standards in Shreveport, it is going to be moved to Dayton. I only ask because the title of the thread, is so way off it isn't funny.


http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbc ... 9901240338

There has been a series of articles in the Shreveport Times and if I recall several have mentioned the scrapping based on info from NMUSAF.

Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:34 pm

I still read no where where the NMUSAF said they were going to scrap it. One person suggested it, and by no means is that an all out effort to actually do it. It is slated to come off of acitve display and be dismantled to Dayton, unless the museum at Barksdale gets approval. There is no scrapping of these planes. When I was there a few years ago, the barksdale planes did look rough. Maybe they fixed them up some.

ah who needs a bunch of crappy old planes anyway...

Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:38 pm

...well BESIDES ME anyway.... :D its a shame but just one of many we seem to be living with these days.

Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:48 pm

If you don't get up to Barksdale, be sure and go by and check out the Florence SC Museum. I think you'll especially enjoy the A-26K and the WB66.
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