Top Secret Spying Program

[The Inspector]

We have overall medium gray lawn darts carrying antennas and external pods around here all the time, the NAVY uses them out of NAS Whidbey to train navigators in EA 6's and now EFA-18 Growlers since the Gulfstream 1's were retired, its a contractor company.

We also, upon occasion see U.S. ARMY marked DHC-7's in and out of KPAE doing whatever or transiting to/from Alaska (checking Sarahs sight lines to Russia?), I don't let it bother me because I'm not doing anything suspicious and there's damn3d little I could do about it anyway.

just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not out to get you-

[A2C]

We have overall medium gray lawn darts carrying antennas and external pods around here all the time, the NAVY uses them out of NAS Whidbey to train navigators in EA 6's and now EFA-18 Growlers since the Gulfstream 1's were retired, its a contractor company.

We also, upon occasion see U.S. ARMY marked DHC-7's in and out of KPAE doing whatever or transiting to/from Alaska (checking Sarahs sight lines to Russia?), I don't let it bother me because I'm not doing anything suspicious and there's damn3d little I could do about it anyway.

just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not out to get you-

No, just observant, and these obviously weren't Navy planes doing that sort of work. Ii doesn't bother me at all, in fact I think it's interesting. Those are pretty presumptuous assumptions, along with implications that people shouldn't pay attention.

[muddyboots]

I'm still in the dark as to what you think the CIA was doing.

[A2C]

I'm still in the dark as to what you think the CIA was doing.

I didn't think anything, just made a suggestion. Beer in hand, takes a sip, slurp..

[davidbray]

The aircraft you mentioned are used in drug interdiction missions.

[A2C]

Davidbray wrote:

The aircraft you mentioned are used in drug interdiction missions.

It looks like you've just answered the question! Amazing what we can learn on WIX!

[Tulio]

Folks:

The media has admitted there has been a top-secret spying program. So the question is have you seen anything in the air which could've been involved in this? Thanks,

Dang!

Then it was not the media spying on us? Why did then, the media "admitted" to a spying program in the first place?

After reading the text on the link you provided, it turns out that the reference was made to a warrantless communications surveillance program, that does not require an airplane to achieve.

Anyways....


Saludos,


Tulio

[A2C]

Then it was not the media spying on us? Why did then, the media "admitted" to a spying program in the first place?

There's another assumption or misreading, it was a spying program mentioned in the media.

warrantless communications surveillance program, that does not require an airplane to achieve.

How do you know? A covert drug communication aircraft is indeed warrantless, and is also surveillance, and how do you know the CIA doesn't make use of the same aircraft as well? They clearly do have a surveilance purpose.

Unless you actually work for the CIA, I'm not sure you can qualify your statement. Or unless you work for CNN how can you make so many assumptions?

[Tulio]

I was answering based on your original post.

You stated that the media had admitted to a spying program.

By law, the CIA cannot conduct espionage on American soil.

If anyone would do this, by law, would be the Fibbers or other agencies.

So, how do I know, you ask?

Education- Knowledge- Experience- Educated guesses- Research- and most important, by not being paranoid over every little bit of news that comes my way.

The possibilities thus, are endless. And they are not limited to just being with the CIA or with CNN.


Saludos,


Tulio

[A2C]

I was answering based on your original post.

You stated that the media had admitted to a spying program.

Well, I guess they did admit to it for the prior administration w/o their permission of course.

By law, the CIA cannot conduct espionage on American soil.

If anyone would do this, by law, would be the Fibbers or other agencies.

They have in the past, what's stopping them now? Why would Leon Panetta order the the domestic activities stopped within his organization (the CIA) if they weren't happening?

So, how do I know, you ask?

Education- Knowledge- Experience- Educated guesses- Research- and most important, by not being paranoid over every little bit of news that comes my way.

Well some of that applies here, in terms of paranoid, how is being inquisitive about observed phenomenon paranoid? Conclusion, ignorance is the rule, and paying attn is paranoid and the exception.

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[The Inspector]

Calm down, have another sip of that beer and return to Faux News and Glen B. for more 'facts' until Captain Bloviating B.S. comes on-

[Tulio]

By law, the CIA cannot conduct espionage on American soil.

If anyone would do this, by law, would be the Fibbers or other agencies.

They have in the past, what's stopping them now? Why would Leon Panetta order the the domestic activities stopped within his organization (the CIA) if they weren't happening?

I will agree that you are right in that assumption, based on what has happened in the past.

Well some of that applies here, in terms of paranoid, how is being inquisitive about observed phenomenon paranoid? You see if people were more aware about what was going on, ignorance wouldn't be such a widespread problem in this country. Conclusion, ignorance is the rule, and paying attn is paranoid and the exception.[/quote]

Not everyone is interested in observing any phenomena. Most people are happy to live their lives without worrying about such things.

From an airplane flying in circles, jumping to the conclussion that the CIA is spying, is IMHO a big logical leap.

So let's agree to disagree, and let's talk about warbirds, after all it is the reason for the existence of this website.


Saludos,


Tulio