Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:33 pm
I see Red Stars at KLNC all the time.... 
Lynn
Lynn
Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:03 pm
Randy Haskin wrote:Are they flying yet?
Not yet, Randy. Flight control checks and hydraulic function checks are underway right now. HUDs and seats yet to be installed.
The plan is that at least one of the aircraft will be on display at the Rockford Airfest, August 22-23, 2009.
Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:06 pm
Buck,
Who's doing the Seat work for you?
Do you have the adapters for the US Anti-G, Oxygen & Comms?
Who's doing the Seat work for you?
Do you have the adapters for the US Anti-G, Oxygen & Comms?
Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:13 pm
Bloke wrote:Buck,
Who's doing the Seat work for you?
Do you have the adapters for the US Anti-G, Oxygen & Comms?
Seat work is being done by TDY "factory" reps. Yep, I believe we've got all the connectors and adapters sorted out. Do you have some expertise in such matters? Sorry for not knowing.
Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:44 pm
warbird1 wrote:
Yea, but the public isn't scared by a prop airplane attacking their home!
Major Burns was....
Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:20 am
I noticed the Red Star insignia has been painted out. Is that a requirement from the FAA and/or DOD to prevent from "scaring the public" and making them think we are under Soviet invasion?
Can the Red Star be painted back on by a prospective buyer?
If I am not mistaken, those were not stars but rather Ukraine AF.
I thought some company in California ownes these for some government work? ** I am sure I read that in a forum somewhere.
Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:28 am
They must have seperate ones because they made it clear in their article on prides website that these are NOT for military use. Why they are demilitarized. Pride explained why they took it down earlier in the year cause of all the speculation going on. Now that they are fully on the market, they want them advertised.
Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:45 am
Get em ready, get em sold, then send at least one down here to a Texas air show. Man would it be fun to see one of them do a "max" preformance routine. i looked them up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-27 , NOTHING like this has ever been avaliable to the public, i'll bet Randy Haskin would like to take one of them "around the block". don't hanger em, fly em.
Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:03 am
Flyin Illini wrote:They were not brought here for any military purpose. They were brought here to be privately-owned and operated -- just like every other jet "warbird" in America. Because of the freedoms we enjoy here (as aircraft enthusiasts and "warbird" owners in the U.S. and elsewhere are keenly aware), private individuals and/or aircraft museums have the opportunity to collect and operate almost any sport aircraft they desire.
"sport aircraft"?
Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:15 am
Well, I guess I won't get to use this slide in my F-15 capabilities briefing anymore.
Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:20 am
oscardeuce wrote:Flyin Illini wrote:They were not brought here for any military purpose. They were brought here to be privately-owned and operated -- just like every other jet "warbird" in America. Because of the freedoms we enjoy here (as aircraft enthusiasts and "warbird" owners in the U.S. and elsewhere are keenly aware), private individuals and/or aircraft museums have the opportunity to collect and operate almost any sport aircraft they desire.
"sport aircraft"?
If memory serves, Sukhoi is/was actually developing a version of the Su-25 tank-hunter for this very purpose; sans the armorplate and military systems.
Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:36 am
NEATO!! I got a very close look @ at a couple that were in the Seattle/Everett area doing airshows during the 'GOODWILL GAMES' in 1990. The main gear struts remind me of the poles that hold up those 'EATS-TRUCK STOP' signs along the Interstates, they are massive and the wheels look for all the world like implement wheels. Those are BIG aircraft. Got to see my first 'COBRA' maneuver @ KPAE during the airfair in 1990 
By the way, the term Soviet is long redundant (except in Vladdies mind)
By the way, the term Soviet is long redundant (except in Vladdies mind)
Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:36 am
First of all let me say that these aircraft are awesome and I think it's great that they are on the civilian market. I can't wait to see one or both of them at air shows in the near future. 
With that said, these are unique aircraft (esp. here in the States) which presents some challanges to who ever becomes the proud new owner of a Flanker.
I wonder if Pride has already got U.S. Certificates of Airworthiness for them and had all the manuals translated to English or if that will be up to the buyer(s)? Where does one go to get an SU-27 engine (or any other component) overhauled or serviced? Remember that this is the Soviet's first operational fly-by-wire fighter, getting replacement flight control computers might be a bit difficult. I hope that Pride negotiated some spares in the deal with the Ukranians! 
Like I said, I'm all for seeing them on the air show circuit, but these aircraft represent a whole new level in jet warbirds! I bet the Cold War Air Museum guys down in Lancaster are drooling!
With that said, these are unique aircraft (esp. here in the States) which presents some challanges to who ever becomes the proud new owner of a Flanker.
I wonder if Pride has already got U.S. Certificates of Airworthiness for them and had all the manuals translated to English or if that will be up to the buyer(s)? Where does one go to get an SU-27 engine (or any other component) overhauled or serviced? Remember that this is the Soviet's first operational fly-by-wire fighter, getting replacement flight control computers might be a bit difficult. I hope that Pride negotiated some spares in the deal with the Ukranians!
Like I said, I'm all for seeing them on the air show circuit, but these aircraft represent a whole new level in jet warbirds! I bet the Cold War Air Museum guys down in Lancaster are drooling!
Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:55 am
Just make sure when you turn on the autopilot the SU-27s don't try and fly home to the Ukraine.