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100% new built Turbo Goose for sale....

Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:33 am

100% new built Turbo Goose for sale....

New to me, they claim 100% new metal.

http://www.antillesseaplanes.com


About Our Unique Aircraft

Antilles Seaplanes LLC has put together an outstanding team of highly-experienced individuals in all aspects of the operation-design, engineering, manufacturing, marketing, finance, and flight operations. The company is operating from facilities in the North Carolina-Triad area, with facilities equaling more than 100,000 square feet.

Antilles Seaplanes, LLC is the proud owner of the McKinnon G-21G type certificate. As type certificate owner, by using this approved data, we will be able to produce brand new certified G-21G Super Gooses.

Furthermore, all of the best STC modifications & improvements that have been developed for Goose series aircraft over the last 70 years are being incorporated into our construction & assembly process. This means that when you buy a new Antilles Goose, you will get a proven design which is safer, stronger, lighter, more dependable, easier to maintain, with a 100% COMPLETELY NEW AIRFRAME!

In addition, water-jet, CNC machining, CAD engineering & design, modern epoxy primers & sealers, along with a host of other technical improvements, turn the time tested Goose design into what will simply be the best seaplane ever built… bar none!


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Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:10 am

Does the beach is it on come with it? :wink:

Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:18 am

If you can afford one......why not Mike :wink:

I think I finally found my ultimate RV camping vehicule HEHE

Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:37 am

My new #1 on my ( If I won the lottery list)

Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:55 am

It's nice but where do you hang the trolling motor?

Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:07 am

Interesting that several of the pics on the site show a round engined version in their house colors. Wonder if you could order one of those.

August

Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:15 am

Can you still get "NEW" round engines like that? US Made, not Chinese!!!!

Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:10 am

The Goose looks strange with those turbines hanging out there. I'm sure it's a superb aircraft, but I still like the looks and sounds and smells of radials! :D

Cheers,

Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:19 am

The round motor is the ex TEUFELS Nursery airframe (or someone else really dug their scheme ask BDK).
30+ years ago while @ RSTOL in NooAwlunz, one of our hangermates was HALLIBURTON who operated a McKinnon Turbo Goose N121H (lost in an inflight prop reversal and inverted spin over Illinois several years ago).
I had the oportunity to go on a couple of test hops post maintenance in the bird. From throttles forward until Al the pilot decided he was @ a comfortable altitude, you were pinned to your seatback by those PT 6's, if you were sitting facing aft your head was almost in the opposite persons chest from the thrust.
Wonderful memories and neat experiences!

Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:11 pm

Funny - I saw the picture and the wrap-around windscreen threw me off. Thought, that's not a Goose, that's a Wigeon!

Then looked at the other features. Shame they went and messed with the split and curved-top windscreens, really was one of the major distinctive Goose features.

Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:46 pm

Yeah maybe, but a now gone GOOSE driver @ the old PAN-AIR @ Lakefront in N.O. likened it to flying a mail drop box from inside because he said the vision in some directions was so bad. The one piece was part of the McKinnon mod.

Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:29 am

ZTEX-
Thanks dude! reply sent, you made my evening! :D :D :wink:

Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:39 pm

Holedigger wrote:Can you still get "NEW" round engines like that? US Made, not Chinese!!!!


Uhh... :roll:

Sun Air Parts: http://www.sunairparts.com/ :D

NEW Air Tractors with R-1340's: http://www.airtractor.com/Default.aspx?p=5968 :D

Also, the AsH-62 is Polish for the most part, not Chinese.
There is also the Vedeneyev M14P, another good Russian-built radial.

-Chaz 8)

Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:06 pm

So the "NEW" 1340s are zero time engines out of old stock? As it seems to be that production ceased in 1960? I've never bought an aircraft engine, so I am indeed Ignorant on the availability of round engines, I just read a LOT about the headaches of getting parts for the old beasties and getting them to run flawlessly. I know $$$$'s talk, if you have the $$$s the parts are there! This is one of the more common P&Ws. As the years go on, what kind of problems is the Warbird Community facing as rebuildable cores starts to dry up?

Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:51 pm

Have not yet bought one myself, just have done a lot of research towards it.

http://www.covingtonaircraft.com/future.asp

From that article:
"The availability of the Pratt & Whitney R-1340, as a long-term power source, has been a concern of operators for as long as I can remember. The concern stemmed from the fact that there were only 34,966 of these engines produced. Production ceased around 1960 in favor of the more technologically advanced jet engine. People worried about running out of replacement parts such as cranks, cams, etc. I remember when Pratt & Whitney R-1340 crankshafts cost less than $1,000. The problem is that no one will produce a crankshaft that they have to charge $8,500 for when a surplus unit is available for $1,000 - and can you blame them? However, now that U/S crankshafts cost around $6,500 to 7,000 it's no longer unfeasible to produce and sell new crankshafts."


As my understanding is, a "0-timed" engine does not have to be a NOS one, but rather an engine that has every part that wears or fatigues replaced or rebuilt to new-engine standard size (wear) and time limits.

Whenever I start to wonder about the possibilitiy of getting a C-119 flying, only to run out of engine parts, all I need to remember is two words:

Martin Mars 8)

They are still running the same type of engines, R-3350-24W's, that the Navy did in the 1940's when they were built! All in all, only about 50,000 3350's of all types were made by Curtiss-Wright, most probably for the Constellation. I have googled around and only found 3 aircraft that used that engine (-24W). Three! :shock:

Also, only 7 Mars were built, meaning that all parts must be machined as no spares exist. (Which is why Coulson was smart, and has his own machine-shop for the Mars.)

So, as long as someone needs them, and can pay for them, they should be there. :D

(Also, parts may be hard to find, but most people eventually found those parts, as even though the supply may be low, it still suits the demand. At least most of the time. :wink: )

-Chaz
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