Technik Museum Speyer, Germany

[tom d. friedman]

very cool pics of a nice selection of some obscure warbirds!! i give the museum credit for displaying the recoveries as is as well. the zeke question ran through my mind as well. 1st class place!

[bdk]

Is this the Zero center section that used to be on display at the IWM in London?

No, a Replica

Upon closer inspection it does appear to be different, but why build a replica of something on display in the IWM that is so incomplete? What significance does it have?



IWM London:

[Tillerman]

I visited the same museum also last summer, on july 29. The battery of my camera went flat halfway my visit, that was bad. So I took some pictures with my cellphone. Like this one, a detail inside the DC-3 above the entrance. It shows the old-fashioned way to relieve your full bladder: pee in the pipe, the hose ends under the fuselage. I checked that



I took a photo of the text board of the Zero, no mention of it being a replica:





Two more pics of the Zerstörer wreckage:





The incomplete Ju-52, showing the patina of a well-used aircraft:



A close-up of that beautifull DB engine:



Tillerman.

[Cking]

Two questions I have...



What's the slightly Avenger-looking lass above the red bird on the right?

So there are two Ju-52s there...one intact and one with rather more wear on her...is the latter of a particular historical significance?

The "avenger-looking lass" is a Fairey Gannet:

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Go on warbird1, try to explain the engine and props
I can but I need a BIG bit of paper!!!!

I was suprised to see swastickers on aircraft in Europe. I thought the were illigal.

Rgds Cking

[Ken]

Several years ago we were able to visit the sister museum at Sinsheim. The WWII airplanes there had swastikas, but they were covered with camo netting or some other touch to keep it from being overt.

http://en.sinsheim.technik-museum.de/ex ... s/aircraft

In the thread photo, the 747 appears to have a slide spiraling down beneath it. At Sinsheim, there is a similar set of stairs that lead you from plane to plane and the top aircraft is a DC-3. You walk from tail to nose, grab a burlap sack and exit from the side door behind the pilot and slide back to ground level . What a hoot.

[Joe Scheil]

Can we go back to this one? What is so unique about the TUG? In other words why is it fenced off and the aircraft aren't?

[Vital Spark]

Can we go back to this one? What is so unique about the TUG? In other words why is it fenced off and the aircraft aren't?

I bet it is because the tug runs and the aircraft don't. It would be a bizzare joy ride.

[A2C]

The Zero in Germany was discussed on j-aircraft.com. The "experts" on there were able to see the big differences on the firewall, and determine it's a replica.

[tom d. friedman]

a replica wreck?? i've seen it all now!!

[fotobass]

A Wrecklica.

Any signage around the Swastika-marked Ju-52 regarding its significance?

[Holedigger]

That Auntie Ju was a supply carrier lost in the Norway Campaign

6821 / CA-JY (cn 6821) This Ju-52 had an eventful past before it found its retirement in the Technikmuseum Speyer. In 1940 it brought a load of supplies for German troops to Norway and had to land on a frozen lake. There was not enough fuel for a flight back to Germany, so it was left behind on the lake. It finally sunk to the bottom when the ice melted in the Spring. There it spend 46 years lying 75 meters below the water surface until it was salvaged in 1986. Carries its authentic code VB-JA on the other side.

from
http://www.airliners.net/photo/641387/L/

[fotobass]

Thanks for digging that up.

[A2C]

A Wrecklica.

Better than a Bootlica.