CAF's JU 52

[Pat Carry]

I dont think this has been mentioned here yet but I just saw in Fly Past Magazine that the CAF's Spanish bulit version of the J-52 has been acquired by Jerry Yeagen. It seems Jerry is acquiring one of every type of warbird out there!

[Steve Rister]

Yep, a reeel bummer....but a unique for Mr. Yeagan.

[Scott Apple]

It is a shame to see the CAF sell off such a rare airplane!

[Taylor Stevenson]

I agree ... hopefully she gets the TLC she deserves...

[JDK]

It is a shame to see the CAF sell off such a rare airplane!

I may have the wrong details, but IIRC, the CAF Wing who were looking after it ran into issues with people who misunderstood the German markings (one in particular on the fin... ) - and the CAF weren't able to find someone else in the CAF structure to love it. So on that basis it's a good thing, no?

Can't argue with the free market, I presume? It's not left the country, been grounded / parted out / sold for scrap or into a private invite only collection - Can't see any issues with that. And the CAF can put the money to good use -like lawyers fees (sorry, sorry).

Original Ju 52/3m (Ju 52 are the first ones with the single engine, strkittley sppekng - and they are extinct, excepting a reverse engineered /3m taken back to the single-engine mockup in WCAM in Canada) aren't IMHO that rare, although the German built examples are. However when you include the CASA and French examples, the numbers are quite respectable, and with airworthy and airworthy pleasure flying examples flying in numbers currently. That's still small numbers compared to hangar- and museum-cluttering junk like P-51D Mustangs of course.

Regards,

[mustangdriver]

James is right, the people near the Gary Chicago Airport were ticked about the markings.

[gflinch]

Well here I go sticking my neck out and probably firmly planting my foot in my mouth, but here goes.

I understand how some people might be offended, but it is still part of history, much like the confederate flag is to the south, may be offensive to some.

One thing I always think of when this is brought up, people have to look at it from everyones perspective (if only = world peace?? joke maybe), what do native american indians think of the american flag? This was probably carried by Custard on his campaigns as well as many others that faught with indians. However I wouldn't think of anyone taking down thier american flag as to not offend native americans. So even though the nazi emblem may have some conitations towards some groups, but not all germans were nazis, most german soldiers fought for their side to keep thier homeland too, and this was thir countrys symbole at that time.

Anyhow, I am not trying to be insensitive to any group, nor am I trying to make some slanted political view, this is just my 2 cent observation. Personally, anymore many people go out of thier way TO BE offended.

Thanks for reading, and not reading anything into this.

Greg

[gflinch]

Well here I go sticking my neck out and probably firmly planting my foot in my mouth, but here goes.

I understand how some people might be offended, but it is still part of history, much like the confederate flag is to the south, may be offensive to some.

One thing I always think of when this is brought up, people have to look at it from everyones perspective (if only = world peace?? joke maybe), what do native american indians think of the american flag? This was probably carried by Custard on his campaigns as well as many others that faught with indians. However I wouldn't think of anyone taking down thier american flag as to not offend native americans. So even though the nazi emblem may have some conitations towards some groups, but not all germans were nazis, most german soldiers fought for their side to keep thier homeland too, and this was thir countrys symbole at that time.

Anyhow, I am not trying to be insensitive to any group, nor am I trying to make some slanted political view, this is just my 2 cent observation. Personally, anymore many people go out of thier way TO BE offended.

Thanks for reading, and not reading anything into this.

Greg

[richkolasa]

I dont think this has been mentioned here yet but I just saw in Fly Past Magazine that the CAF's Spanish bulit version of the J-52 has been acquired by Jerry Yeagen. It seems Jerry is acquiring one of every type of warbird out there!

Jerry [Yagen] is acquiring a large number of warbirds. Besides being well-off financially, he is a true lover of aviation, an avid pilot, and an great asset to the warbird community. The aircraft he has are restored properly, and FLOWN (if possible, the P-63 isn't)!

I think it's great (he acquired the JU back around August, not sure it it's been ferried, the last I spoke with him was November and it hadn't been yet) that he's amassing such a collection. He'll soon have a Hispano ME, Flug Werk FW-190, Fiesler Storch, and the JU at MAM. He's having two more hangars built, and is having actual German buildings reassembled at MAM (not sure if the control tower is German or not).

His Mosquito and P-39 should be joining the collection soon. Oh, and there won't be any "tramp stamps" on these aircraft.

Rich

[gregv]

James is right, the people near the Gary Chicago Airport were ticked about the markings.

I'm sure they were, and the irony of driving home in their BMW/Mercedes(including Chryslers made during their ownership)/Mitsubishi(including badge engineered Dodge & Eagles)/Mazda(including those badge engineered Fords) cars/trucks/suv's was also I'm sure completely lost on them; all those manufacturers made weapons that were used against the Allies during WWII.

greg v.

[Cking]

That's still small numbers compared to hangar- and museum-cluttering junk like P-51D Mustangs of course.

JDK you WILL go to WIX hell for that!

Rgds Cking

I have to edit this!!!!
You guys are complaining that somebody objects to a swastiker on a JU-52 and yet the word H.E.L.L. is automaticaly sensored!!! On this side of the pond we have a word for this B******s!

[CraigQ]

I dont think this has been mentioned here yet but I just saw in Fly Past Magazine that the CAF's Spanish bulit version of the J-52 has been acquired by Jerry Yeagen. It seems Jerry is acquiring one of every type of warbird out there!

Jerry [Yagen] is acquiring a large number of warbirds. Besides being well-off financially, he is a true lover of aviation, an avid pilot, and an great asset to the warbird community. The aircraft he has are restored properly, and FLOWN (if possible, the P-63 isn't)!

I think it's great (he acquired the JU back around August, not sure it it's been ferried, the last I spoke with him was November and it hadn't been yet) that he's amassing such a collection. He'll soon have a Hispano ME, Flug Werk FW-190, Fiesler Storch, and the JU at MAM. He's having two more hangars built, and is having actual German buildings reassembled at MAM (not sure if the control tower is German or not).

His Mosquito and P-39 should be joining the collection soon. Oh, and there won't be any "tramp stamps" on these aircraft.

Rich

The JU-52 is not here yet. One of the two hangars will be the Fighter Factories new home when completed moving it (the FF) from it's original and current location at Suffolk. The other hangar is a German hangar and the control tower is out of England.

[L2Driver]

Well here I go sticking my neck out and probably firmly planting my foot in my mouth, but here goes.

I understand how some people might be offended, but it is still part of history, much like the confederate flag is to the south, may be offensive to some.

One thing I always think of when this is brought up, people have to look at it from everyones perspective (if only = world peace?? joke maybe), what do native american indians think of the american flag? This was probably carried by Custard on his campaigns as well as many others that faught with indians. However I wouldn't think of anyone taking down thier american flag as to not offend native americans. So even though the nazi emblem may have some conitations towards some groups, but not all germans were nazis, most german soldiers fought for their side to keep thier homeland too, and this was thir countrys symbole at that time.

Anyhow, I am not trying to be insensitive to any group, nor am I trying to make some slanted political view, this is just my 2 cent observation. Personally, anymore many people go out of thier way TO BE offended.

Thanks for reading, and not reading anything into this.

Greg

Along the same lines, people have some issues with this WW1-era US Army uniform. Yes, the unit patches are real and original to the uniform. As already mentioned, the swastika was a native American symbol prior to being hijacked by the Third Reich. I believe this patch survived in use well into the 1930s before being done away with for obvious reasons.

[Kyleb]

James is right, the people near the Gary Chicago Airport were ticked about the markings.

I submit that it was a few ninnies with a misguided sense of outrage. Not "the people near the airport".

[CAPFlyer]

Sadly though Kyle, those "few ninnies" managed to create enough of a hostile environment that the wing was going to or did loose their ability to stay on the airport (can't remember right now).

Sadly, we have to live in the world of Political Correctness and Minority Rule (hear me out) where the complaints of the vast few outweigh the interests of the larger population. Case in point is aircraft like this and General Aviation airports. We're loosing 50 GA airports a YEAR because the minority complain about the noise/markings/pollution/etc and the local government listens to them despite the much more numerous expressions of support and the even larger expression of "Don't Care" that is unfortunately interpreted as a negative instead of a neutral. They (the politicians) don't care about the economic, personal, and safety impact, they only care about avoiding conflict, appeasing, and keeping themselves out of the news.