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For lovers of obscure types...........

Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:46 pm

I was having a peruse of russian aviation sites the other day and found these..........
http://www.tupolev.ru/English/Show.asp?SectionID=49
I never knew of the Russian developments of the Tu-4 such as the Tu-70, Tu-80 and the Tu-85 and it is also good to see the admisson that the Tu-4 is a copy of the B-29. You have to love the ANT-22 :? .

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/gallery/?gallery_id=9&r=9
Some of the pictures of the modern types are quite good, and some of the a/c in the 'museum' section I had never heard of.

http://www.beriev.com/eng/photos_e.html
Gotta go here if you love flying boats, I'll have a KOR-2 please. 8)

http://www.yak.ru/ENG/FIRM/hist.php
Not so obscure types, but has listing of YAK. a/c in museums around the world, some nice photos and specs.

http://www.migavia.ru/eng/corporation/?tid=4
Nice photos of current a/c, good history of Mig. but no historical photos.

It just goes show how the world has changed, 15 years ago you would have been shot trying to get some of these photos, especially the new stuff. It also good to see these companies are very proud of their pasts. :D

Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:59 pm

neat stuff

Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:40 pm

Thank gawd, I thought I was going for the "Most Views and No Replies" award. :roll: :D

Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:14 pm

Somewhat related to this story, back in the early Spring I was busy cleaning the bottom side of right wing of B-17G "Thunderbird" when I noticed these two fellows touring around the museum, they kept coming back to Thunderbird and looking and studying and acting as though they wanted to ask a question to someone. So I put down all my cleaning rags
and walked over to them. The younger fellow in his late twenties and the older guy maybe sixty-five-ish. The older fellow asked through his younger interpreter if this was a B-17. I was a little taken aback a fellow of his age asking a question like that. But after a little talk back and forth through the younger man I found out he spent most of his military career as a flight engineer in a TU-4 in the Soviet Air Force. He actually said it was a "copy" of the B-29 and wanted to know where he could see a B-29. He was staying in San Antonio so I suggested he go to the Lackland airpark but if he was up to the trip the C.A.F. had a real one in Midland.
I told him how the U.S just scrapped a lot of the B-29'or used them for bombing and missile targets in China Lake and therefore were not very many survivors. He said the Soviets did the same thing with most of their TU-4's. He asked me if I knew of Francis Gary Powers. I reply, yes. He said the Soviet's use the TU-4's for missile targets in developement of the missle that brought down Power's U-2.
I guessed at his age he may have never really seen a B-17 or had any access to information about the plane. The coldwar was on and the B-17 was obsolete and not a threat plus it never really flew regularly in Russia skies so I imagine he could have never seen one. Of course I couldn't understand his name and didn't anything to write with either. So they ended up being just another couple of museum visitors.
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