Fw-190 F-AZZJ Down - Pilot OK

[PeterA]

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[Nathan]

Why are some of you guys being rude to me? Even insulting? True I don't have any experience flying anything other then a Cessna 152 and a Stinson. Limited at that. I think some mis understood my comments. They were more a question then anything else. Also my opinion is just as important then anyone else on here . And it was in friendly manner at that.


I will now kindly ask a mod to lock this thread. Thanks to those that took it too far.

[lmritger]

Although I do have to give the man his props, he deserves some sort of award for the most authentic WWII re-enactment... that's far from the first JG 2 Fw 190A to be ditched in the Channel. (Just trying to lighten the mood a little here)

Lynn

It went down in the Med, not the Channel.

Oh, well that settles it then- the award is hereby rescinded pending further investigation into JG 2 losses in the Mediterranean.

But seriously folks, still glad the pilot got out fully intact.

Lynn

PS: Asking a mod to lock the thread because someone made an ill-advised crack at your expense? Not defending them in the slightest here, but really...

[Nathan]

Although I do have to give the man his props, he deserves some sort of award for the most authentic WWII re-enactment... that's far from the first JG 2 Fw 190A to be ditched in the Channel. (Just trying to lighten the mood a little here)

Lynn

It went down in the Med, not the Channel.

Oh, well that settles it then- the award is hereby rescinded pending further investigation into JG 2 losses in the Mediterranean.

But seriously folks, still glad the pilot got out fully intact.

Lynn

PS: Asking a mod to lock the thread because someone made an ill-advised crack at your expense? Not defending them in the slightest here, but really...

Well you guys got the news. You can find it elsewhere now. Delete, lock, etc. Whatever to prevent any furhter downgrade of this site. It's bash on Nathan day! There are problems. Maybe a combo of both plane and pilot. If I am wrong then who cares. Is it really going to ruin someones day here?

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[mustangdriver]

Have no idea. Although I enjoyed flying a 152.

So you are not 'sure' then?

Maybe you should substitute "sure" for "qualified to offer such a dumbassed opinion"?

[PeterA]

An internet translation:-

The pilot of a former airplane of German hunt took out miraculously unharmed by a crash in bay of Hyères this Saturday in the Var, on the eve of the meeting of the Centennial one naval Aeronautics.

Marc Mathis, 63 years old, repeated faces of flies on board of his focke-wulf 190, a German hunter dating back to the Second World War. According to the testimony of the pilot, the motor of the airplane loosened during a "barrel barriqué", a maneuver of lateral reversal.

Losing the check nearby of beaches and of dwellings, Marc Mathis had the reflex one to direct his airplane towards the sea. "I entered into the water to near of 250 km/o'clock", it explained.

The airplane is itself crashé to 14 o'clock 50 to some tens of meters of the shore hyérois, to the said place "The Marquise". This are employed them of a concession of throw skiing (editor's note: Audemar) that helped the pilot to extract itself habitacle. "They took a knife and cut the girth parachute keeping the pilot", retrieved the one of the employees.

Marc Mathis, undamaged, was taken charge of by the sailors firemen of the basis Naval Air Force of the Palyvestre. "It is the twelfth time that my motor loosens me and that I must put myself in catastrophe", confided, very calm, this pilot that counts close to 1600 hours of flies.

[Robbo]

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[Nathan]

Nathan, you made a ridiculous statement in your post. How else should this be regarded?

Mustangdriver, nice self-portrait.

Why is it ridiculous? I just did not word my post right(look at it now)----That is what I ment to say. I was making suggestions for both sides. As most ignorant people like me and everyone else in this world look at things half sided. Like your comments. I figured someone would come in and either blame the pilot or plane. I guess my diversion worked as I turned the fire from the wreck to me! Doesn't matter really I guess. Life goes on.

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[mustangdriver]

There is never a reason to make anyone feel dumb, or talk down to them on this forum.

As for me, I have been working in aviation in one form or another since I was 12. I didn't get to where I am now by mistreating others.

[JimH]

warbird INFORMATION exchange not warbird OPINION exchange

jim

[Robbo]

Nathan, original post amended. Initial accounts of the incident so far state that the engine appeared to lose power (which in turn could be a failure of the engine, a fuel problem or a host of other reasons that won't be known until the aeroplane's been examined) but who's to know at this stage?

Making any ill-judged statement about the operation of the aeroplane or experience of the pilot at this stage is inappropriate and in my opinion such comments really have no place in the public domain at this point.

Mustangdriver, please don't assume that you know me, you don't, so wind your neck in.

[Nathan]

Thanks for the info. Sorry for causing anyone hardship. I am at fault and moving onward.

Thanks,
Nate

[Robbo]

Thanks, Nathan, I'm happy to park the issue there.

[Jack Cook]

Well, the last time I checked the Med was salt water so either whole or in pieces
that a/c is really f*cked up Remember the CF F4U-5 that ditched off FL a
few years back? It took a few years and a few 100K it make it right

[Nathan]

I used to just study aviation history. This place is a bit different more for the current warbird subjects. Just that it's a small niche regarding avaition history buffs. I have had a hard life and this is what gets me by. I won't go into detail about my life because its pretty sad and I found myself close to where WIX friend Mr. Austin finished. Majority think flying warbirds is a bad idea. But I am in the middle. I enjoy the history and also enjoy seeing them fly. I wish to finish my flight lessons someday. I am sure I will. But its hard these days and most generally people don't like aviation. I come from an area that has no aviation interest. Not even the pilots down at my local airport know what warbirds are. I have actually asked them trying to start a confo...but most had to ask me what a warbird is. I try to do my best for the Geneseo air museum. I get there a few times each year. Not much really considering what everyone else does on this forum. But I still like to think I do my part in trying to keep warbirds alive. Rather it be actually volunteering or what I do most of...advertising on the internet and in my home town about upcoming aviation events and Geneseo. I also collect aviation photographs. That is my way of having a part of those aircraft. I probably never will own a warbird so those photos are my way of having a peice of them. In some ways photos are better then actually owning or operating a warbird because I actually have photo evidence of a plane from the past. The markings, the paint, and the location. I also got the bug for photographing the aircraft. My way of recording them before they are gone. I am a little bitter about planes that don't fly anymore. Because I lost my chance of seeing them perform. I also am affraid that we will soon stop flying warbirds for several reasons. Vets passing, Inc costs, gas, crashes, laws, etc. Which is why I come out as pushing support for aircraft to get flying. Once we pass that stage of stop flying them then any other future fliers will also be hulted. My big passion has been from Pearl Harbor to Midway. Thats my time period of heroes and men fighting hard and long and losing in many cases. I have done some research on Pearl Harbor and know a lot about the air combat of that day. But attention to those years is small compared to the rest of the war. Not sure what this post is ment to say. Just maybe people will understand where I come from.

Thanks,
Nate