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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:19 am 
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Maybe, your's ran cooler because the air is cleaner up there in the Rockies and being at the epicenter of the "eco-friendlies." Ours was down here in the semi-flatlands of middle Tennesee and we have a lot more pollution from all the moonshine stills, burley tobacco being smoke cured in barns , charcoal being burned at the Jack Daniels distellery, and all those country hams and pork products being cooked on open wood by the huddled masses. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:47 am 
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As for as air temp there in Tenn, I do know of a former P-51 pilot that often emitted enough hot air to raise the ambient temp. Now if you ad in a few more Mustang pilots, one from the Denton, Texas area, one ex Gen from Omaha, and a couple from Canada, and a few California P-40 guys, all telling improbable and often profane, but amusing tales, man, you could get a localized global warming condition. I never saw this in Tenn, but did at Oshkosh. Those were fun days. Me being an ex Texan, I only speak the truth, of course, at least as I see it.

To be serious, although it is of course cooler here than mostly down there, I also flew my T-34 at sea level a number of times.
I can't recall for sure, but my oil temp may have run near the upper limit at full power,but if it is within limits, as marked on the gauge, or given in the manual,then it seems ok. It was still running ok when I sold it after 10 years, you just had to add a quart of oil about every flight or two.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:39 am 
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There was definitely some "global warming" going on in the hospitality room at the Fond Du Lac Holiday Inn back then! I enjoyed being a "fly on the wall" for sure.
Bill, I hope you will consider adding a CFI rating while your Spitfire is being repaired. You certainly have a lot of experience in these old airplanes.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:37 pm 
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On the other hand why arm a T-34 when you can arm a Bonanza? I once read an account of a ranch in Rhodesia that had a Bonanza with a pair of .30 cal. machine guns mounted just outboard of the main gears. They also had some kind of chute that allowed them to drop grenades. Apparently it was all approved by the government as some sort of super Civil Air Patrol. They used it to patrol thier property in search of Zimbabwe rebels. Does ingenuity in support of a losing cause count?

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Beech actually built armed export versions of the T-34C, dubbed the T-34C-1. It also had a different engine than the regular C model. They were sold to quite a few countries. C-1s were sold to Algeria, Argentina, Ecuador, France, Gabon, Indonesia, Morocco, Peru and Uruguay. I know Taiwan got quite a few T-34Cs as well, but I am not sure if they are regular C models or C-1s.


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Beech actually built armed export versions of the T-34C, dubbed the T-34C-1. It also had a different engine than the regular C model. They were sold to quite a few countries. C-1s were sold to Algeria, Argentina, Ecuador, France, Gabon, Indonesia, Morocco, Peru and Uruguay. I know Taiwan got quite a few T-34Cs as well, but I am not sure if they are regular C models or C-1s.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:17 am 
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I see only a couple T-34C's in civilian hands (Nogle & Black). Anyone know of more or if these will ever reach the market?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:32 am 
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I saw an announcement this year of T-34C's available at AMARC provided you could pass the aircraft through a 6 inch by 6 inch hole.

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So, the airframe and spar issues corrected. Non-military weapon (for the most part), so why not make them available? What if you bought from a foreign country? Could you import? Not like it presents a threat. :rolleyes:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:13 am 
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You'd be surprised how many went to AMARC and then were returned to service a few years later. Eventually, they will get all the C models phased out. When they are, I would bet you'll see a few on the civilian market. Although the A and B models will still be more economical to run. ;)


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Don't be too sure about the Charlies going to AMARG.

My company is removing the usable parts and components (SARDIP), at Whiting Field and they are being shredded on site by another contractor.
The airplanes from Corpus are being flown to Whiting for SARDIP and shredding.

The Government doesn't want the liability of the airplanes on the civil market. Hawker Beech is also supporting this project by not having the aircraft with civil registrations flown around.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:32 am 
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So, foreign supply chain may be the only way. Will be interesting to see how this develops as time goes on. Too bad.

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An Argentine AF Mentor with underwing pylons:
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The link with more photos is here http://jal-misfotosdeaviones.blogspot.c ... uerza.html
, all were made over August 9 & 10 1974 at Morón AFB, Argentina.

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SIGN ME UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: Ah, but where are they now?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:22 pm 
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skymstr02, is there any chance you're taking photos of this process for the record? I'd love to see them despite the sorry circumstances.


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My company is removing the usable parts and components (SARDIP), at Whiting Field and they are being shredded on site by another contractor.
The airplanes from Corpus are being flown to Whiting for SARDIP and shredding.

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