BAD NEWS FOR F8F 204

[the330thbg]

This has to be one of the most bizarre threads ever.

I certainly agree!

[bdk]

Government cover up.

Or government "un-cover up"! A cover up would be if they denied that it happened.

[the330thbg]

Speaking., of..., why try and explain this away as 'filming' for a movie?

Accidents happen.., this guy is just lucky to walk away with a scratch and a bruised ego and now he has the reputation of a LIAR.

WTF?

[brucev]

evidently the picture of the aircraft flying was not taken the day after either.


sheesh


lame

[the330thbg]

evidently the picture of the aircraft flying was not taken the day after either.


sheesh


lame

sheesh..., what a PUTZ

I know the backstory.., it is his father's plane., and the kid was just going to wax it and not start it up..,

[the330thbg]

a lot of guys standing around with their hands in their pockets as well.. must be ex-Navy

[warbird1]

This has to be one of the most bizarre threads ever.

I think that a second pilot did it from the grassy knoll off to the side. He threw the rock that got deflected from the Cessna 150 in front, ricocheted to the Katana getting thrown into the exhaust of the B-737 and finally hitting the Bearcat pilot in the head causing him to jam on the brakes at the last moment, causing the prop ding.

Wa-la, case solved and no commission needed!

Now we just need that 8 mm film of the event and we can lay this to rest!

[b29driver]

Here's proof about that "other" fighter pilot's association making a movie:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/bc8df0 ... -episode-1

[Lynn Allen]

a lot of guys standing around with their hands in their pockets as well.. must be ex-Navy

They saw this picture of a guy standing on a carrier and the tradition continues....

[warbird1]

Question about this picture for those of you who have seen prop dings before and are familiar.

Why are the prop tips in the picture curled forward? Would that not mean that the aircraft was stationary at best or perhaps moving backwards? Can I assume that it is evidence that the aircraft pivoted around the main gear wheels and the prop arc was actually moving backwards while the tail was moving up? Would that not indicate that either the aircraft was chocked or the brakes were locked up causing the aircraft to pivot around the wheel axles?



Some other interesting questions:

1) Why would Rod Lewis provide aircraft to support any kind of Hollywood movie? He is independently wealthy and clearly does not need the money to support his operations. AFAIK, he has never supported a movie in the past, why would he start now?

2) Why would they film a "Reno-type" air racing movie at a major international airport 1200 miles from the races? Movie sets are very expensive - both in terms of set-up and stopping potential use and/or traffic from the affected area being filmed. Why stop aviation traffic at such a busy place as San Antonio international airport? This makes no sense.

3) Why would Hollywood travel so far to get the film shot? Steve Hinton could provide a Bearcat at Chino, or the CAF So Cal wing could provide one at Camarillo, California - both of which are within a 1.5 hour drive from Hollywood. Why go to Texas for a shot and/or plane which is readily available in Southern California?

4) Why is the Bearcat angled the way it is? The angle of the fuselage is greatly off the taxiway heading. Even if the pilot of the Bearcat was "S-turning" during taxiing, like normal, the longitudinal axis of the aircraft should be no more than about 30 degrees off of taxiway heading. To me, that looks like the Bearcat was set at an angle on the taxiway, perhaps an engine run-up or something. A run-up would appear to be consistent with what I explained earlier about the prop tips curling forward as opposed to backwards.

Lotsa questions - something here smells fishey and doesn't add up.

[airnutz]

Prop tips curled forwards indicates the engine was running when they struck the ground...going forward.

Last edited by airnutz on Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[51fixer]

Folks,
I suggest we give this one a rest.
We all have accidents. We all make mistakes.
Aircraft will get repaired. This isn't really a big deal except we are making it one.
Prop tips can curl fwd if the engine is under power.
My bet is it got blown up on its nose by another bigger aircraft. Just my opinion.
Stuff happens and I'm glad no one got hurt and the aircraft won't require much to repair in the scheme of things.
Now move along.
Nothing to see her.
If you need something to look at go review the Bald Eagle thread from page 1 to the last page. Some mistakes shown there (Is it normal for the mustang to deposit gals of oil when it parks?) along with verbal barbs being thrown (Also nerf darts being shot).

[warbird1]

Prop tips curled forwards indicates the engine was running when they struck the ground...going forward.

If that's the case then why do the following pictures show the prop tips curling backwards:

[warbird1]

Folks,
I suggest we give this one a rest.
We all have accidents. We all make mistakes.
Aircraft will get repaired. This isn't really a big deal except we are making it one.
Prop tips can curl fwd if the engine is under power.
My bet is it got blown up on its nose by another bigger aircraft. Just my opinion.
Stuff happens and I'm glad no one got hurt and the aircraft won't require much to repair in the scheme of things.
Now move along.
Nothing to see her.
If you need something to look at go review the Bald Eagle thread from page 1 to the last page. Some mistakes shown there (Is it normal for the mustang to deposit gals of oil when it parks?) along with verbal barbs being thrown (Also nerf darts being shot).

I haven't heard anyone in this thread point fingers, lay blame or fault anyone for an accident. If I missed it, please let me know. Everyone makes mistakes, myself included. I've had several times where I almost caused substantial damage to an aircraft, but somehow managed to escape injury or equipment damage. The whole point of this thread is that there appears to be conflicting information. The only thing everyone wants is the truth - that's all. It appears that there is some mis- or dis- information out there. If the truth would just come out, everybody would let this rest, we would all go " sorry to hear that, glad the pilot is o.k., and wish for speedy repairs", then move on. Because it appears that someone has an agenda (no, Ryan S. I am not talking about you), people are going to "call them on it".

The whole point of this thread is to get accurate information - nothing else! No blaming or finger-pointing whatsoever, except to the people who have an agenda here.

[airnutz]

Sorry Warbird1, I botched the wording on a quick explanation. As Rich hinted"under power". Curled forward indicate power was being applied as the tips strike, as power degrades the following blades will more than likely bend backward. When throttled back and still turning, the blades will tend to bend backward. I'm sure there are better 'splainers round here...