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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:38 pm 
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whats " probation member"? Iv'e seen that under a guys name

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:29 am 
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The NJ P-38 is no where near the same level of condition as these aircraft.

Still doesn't hide the fact that the aircraft should not be stuck on a pole in the NJ weather!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:47 pm 
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I heard that it too is in the works to come down and come indoors.

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I heard that it too is in the works to come down and come indoors.

Good news. That needs to happen even if it has to be brought to Dayton.

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I liked it better when it was a dangerous flying machine owned and operated by MARCS and flown by old fossil Tony LeVier.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:33 pm 
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Well, there are alot of warbirds that were with us in 1981 that are no longer here. This one still is, and I am thankful for that. Plans are in the works to bring it indoors. That is a good thing. Now, we need to try and help Chanute.

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mustangdriver wrote:
Now, we need to try and help Chanute.



Agreed...and help Grissom and other places.
And as you pointed out, the NMUSAF is trying to work with the museum and protect airframes.

Yes, the NMUSAF does things we don't always like, but overall, they've good far more good than harm....just something to for the critics/dislikersers/haters (choose one according to your mood :D ) to remember, they are not always wrong.

BTW: If they're going to help the NJ P-38, how about the Lackland P-51H and P-47N?
These days, NO WWII fighter should be left oudoors....and in the not too distant future, because of their age, we'll be saying that about C-47s and B-17s.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:45 am 
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mustangdriver wrote:
Well, there are alot of warbirds that were with us in 1981 that are no longer here.

And there are a lot of aircraft that were barely "survivors" in 1981 which flies today. Not to mention the static airframes gone since then.

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This one still is, and I am thankful for that. Plans are in the works to bring it indoors. That is a good thing.

30 years too late, but hopefully it will. If a plane on a pole is deemed necessary get one of the fibreglass replicas. Or create a bronze statue of McGuire to put at the entrance. That would be just as appropriate as anything else.

I do hope that something can be done with this Chanute situation though. To the best for the airframes.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:20 am 
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Agreed. The planes need to come in. As for the P-38 I heard mention of a planned education center that will house it. Not sure if that will be open to the public or not, but atleast it will be inside.

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Agreed. The planes need to come in. As for the P-38 I heard mention of a planned education center that will house it. Not sure if that will be open to the public or not, but atleast it will be inside.

A planned education center at Dayton or where its located at now, McGuire JB?

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I assume they meant NJ. Does anyone know of that other P-38 restored by the USAF at a base. Is it indoors. I want to say in Alaska, but not sure on that.

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This one.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 13400.html

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mustangdriver wrote:
I assume they meant NJ. Does anyone know of that other P-38 restored by the USAF at a base. Is it indoors. I want to say in Alaska, but not sure on that.

Its outside. http://www.stelliott.com/may_2007/index ... 38?i=9&s=1

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Also check this link for additional info about this particular P-38. www.hlswilliwaw.com/aleutians/Aircraft/ ... overed.htm

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I actually believe this is the P-38 that is in question:
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 53015.html


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