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Thu May 19, 2011 7:25 pm
From Barnstormers:
WARBIRD PILOTS • REQUIRED IMMEDIATELY • Volunteer pilots and ground crew for WWII Airplane non profit organization. T6, B25, Stearman. 1-888-743-3311 • Contact Mark Noah, End User - located Marathon, FL USA • Telephone: 404-822-1032 • Posted May 19, 2011
Does this sound too good to be true?
Thu May 19, 2011 7:28 pm
Is someone planning on invading Honduras or Costa Rica? Or is there a bumper crop that needs shipped immediately-
Thu May 19, 2011 8:18 pm
That would be the outfit that operates Barbie III, yes?
August
Thu May 19, 2011 8:21 pm
No, this is not too good to be true. Volunteering is a nice idea but paying your pilots for their skill and work provided and a job well done is a much better plan. Pay people for what they are worth and quit using others for you own gain.
Thu May 19, 2011 8:57 pm
where do i enlist so i don't get drafted?
Thu May 19, 2011 9:28 pm
Listen to what Chuck is telling you.....
Thu May 19, 2011 9:41 pm
I guess I'd volunteer for the T-6 part - if they'd volunteer a checkout in it.

Ryan
Fri May 20, 2011 12:02 am
I fly an L 4 so that sort of qualifies me to fly the B 25. I mean we both have wings, I have one of two engines. Close enough.
Let me at it.
Fri May 20, 2011 5:05 am
i saw a b-25 fly a few times, let me at least be the top turret
Fri May 20, 2011 8:07 am
I stayed at a Holiday Inn once, so surely I'm qualified to fly those birds!
Fri May 20, 2011 12:48 pm
Chuck Gardner wrote:No, this is not too good to be true. Volunteering is a nice idea but paying your pilots for their skill and work provided and a job well done is a much better plan. Pay people for what they are worth and quit using others for you own gain.
Lots of vintage aviation organizations rely on volunteer pilots and MX crews. How or why is this organization any different? What's the part of the story we're not getting?
John
CC CAF Red Tail
Fri May 20, 2011 2:03 pm
Red Tail wrote:Chuck Gardner wrote:No, this is not too good to be true. Volunteering is a nice idea but paying your pilots for their skill and work provided and a job well done is a much better plan. Pay people for what they are worth and quit using others for you own gain.
Lots of vintage aviation organizations rely on volunteer pilots and MX crews. How or why is this organization any different? What's the part of the story we're not getting?
John
CC CAF Red Tail
Ditto what John said. Since obtaining my commercial ticket 24 years ago, I'm all about flying and getting paid for it. I've done my share of "paying dues" with hard work and low pay through instructing, hauling cancelled checks in a C-310, Beech 1900 commuter flying, a B727 and DC-9 charter outfit, now 13+ years at a major.... so yes, I get what Chuck is saying, but it sure doesn't seem to apply (in most cases) to the warbird environment. Many warbird outfits are operating on a shoestring budget just to keep the ships airworthy, but he thinks the pilots/ground crews should get paid? I joined the CAF awhile back, been helping out at the hangar with wrenches, rivet guns and oil rags and am looking forward to getting checked out to fly a T-6, perhaps a Lodestar... think I oughta ask CAF Midland what kind of pay scale I can expect??
Fri May 20, 2011 10:16 pm
I'd help out with flying the B-25, but it seems to be a little bit of a commute from central Texas!
Sat May 21, 2011 2:01 pm
I'm guessing that Chuck is just reacting to some of the experiences he's had...likely on the level of how volunteer pilots can sometimes be overworked and their services be taken advantage of.
Sat May 21, 2011 2:21 pm
My
volunteer pilot skills can be overworked and taken advantage of anytime by any warbird owner or organzation ...

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