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Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:36 pm
N3Njeff wrote:Speedy wrote:Yeah, that's just awesome....
Somewhere Cleleand and Becker are hoisting a brew over this one.
I am sure soplata is right there pouring.
First off it looks great, and I wish them the best of luck. As for Walter, I am not sure he would be very pleased. He wanted this aircraft to be restored and kept static in Cleveland.
Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:26 am
She needs to fly..........and fly often
Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:38 am
hstandard4 wrote:She needs to fly..........and fly often
Amen. They should all fly.
Chappie
Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:27 am
O my!! she looks great. there is a video of the engine running up in a test cell i think,. ill post the link. its on the aehs web site. thanks for the update .
Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:47 pm
mustangdriver wrote:N3Njeff wrote:Speedy wrote:Yeah, that's just awesome....
Somewhere Cleleand and Becker are hoisting a brew over this one.
I am sure soplata is right there pouring.
First off it looks great, and I wish them the best of luck. As for Walter, I am not sure he would be very pleased. He wanted this aircraft to be restored and kept static in Cleveland.
I agree, should have gone to MAPS....... then again i am a bit biased
Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:13 pm
What's the status of her sibling #57? We used to see a lot of her?
Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:35 pm
RMAllnutt wrote:Mike wrote:Chappie wrote:?........Galloping Ghost still flying.
I thought we were talking about Cleveland racers.

Ummm... Galloping Ghost was a Cleveland Racer.... flown by the late great Steve Beville.
Cheers,
Richard
Here we go again with the Galloping Ghost/NX79111 debate again. Is it Leeward's or isn't it?
I know what camp I'm in...but my opinion has never mattered much.
Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:55 pm
CH2Tdriver wrote:What's the status of her sibling #57? We used to see a lot of her?
With a new owner in Arizona who tends to keep his toys to himself. Whilst a shame to those of us who like to see these rarities out and about (he also has an airworthy Ford Trimotor IIRC) I'm sure it's in good hands.
Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:47 pm
N3Njeff wrote:Speedy wrote:Yeah, that's just awesome....
Somewhere Cleleand and Becker are hoisting a brew over this one.
I am sure soplata is right there pouring.
More like sitting over in the corner
cursing.
He'd very happy to see it preserved and rebuilt, but not the next natural event which is the airplane flying again.
I give great credit to Soplata for saving these airplanes, but when I spoke to him in 2002 he said, in no uncertain terms, that he despised warbirds that fly because it risked their destruction.
In fact, I believe that the handshake deal that got this Corsair off his property included saying that it wouldn't fly.
Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:54 pm
RMAllnutt wrote:Mike wrote:Chappie wrote:?........Galloping Ghost still flying.
I thought we were talking about Cleveland racers.

Ummm... Galloping Ghost was a Cleveland Racer.... flown by the late great Steve Beville.
Cheers,
Richard
Again, there is a decent camp of Mustang enthusiasts and historians who do not believe that the current Galloping Ghost is the same airframe as the Cleveland racer.
...this despite Beville's 60-year-later recollections of an airframe patch that he felt solidified the airframe's identity (and inexplicably by his account appears to have survived a number of significant airframe modifications, rebuilds, and overhauls since the 1970s).
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... p?p=409840kennsmithf2g wrote:Several years ago, Steve Beville, one of the pilots that raced and worked on her in the Cleveland races, looked over the airframe and found a patch that he said that he put on back in the day. That's good enough for me.
Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:29 am
Randy Haskin wrote:N3Njeff wrote:Speedy wrote:Yeah, that's just awesome....
Somewhere Cleleand and Becker are hoisting a brew over this one.
I am sure soplata is right there pouring.
More like sitting over in the corner
cursing.
He'd very happy to see it preserved and rebuilt, but not the next natural event which is the airplane flying again.
I give great credit to Soplata for saving these airplanes, but when I spoke to him in 2002 he said, in no uncertain terms, that he despised warbirds that fly because it risked their destruction.
In fact, I believe that the handshake deal that got this Corsair off his property included saying that it wouldn't fly.
I can respect those who feel this way, but I just can't understand it. There is no better place than to see a warbird than in the air.
Chappie
Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:49 am
I am from the camp of we need a balance of example to fly and examples to be on static. I was just commenting on Walter and how he would feel since it was brought up. Having been to Walter's in the hay day, and talking to him I can tell you that he would be jacked knowing the Crawford Museum went back on their deal. This in no way is meant toward those who currently own, are restoring, or are going to fly this airplane. I am sure they are going to give her the best of care, and it looks beautiful.
Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:28 am
I would say in the ongoing flyer vs static battles, the flyers won this one since of the 3 left, 2 will be flyable. Can't ask for much more than that if you support the "they all should fly" argument, right?
Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:08 pm
Chappie wrote:Lastly- the website shows an F2G in military colors with the captions they visited the last surviving F2G in a museum. So there are only three F2Gs in the world?
Chappie
Considering there were only 10 F2Gs produced, the fact that 3 of them still exist more than 65 years later is pretty remarkable. Could you imagine if 30% of any other World War II type was still extant?
Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:11 pm
SaxMan wrote:Chappie wrote:Lastly- the website shows an F2G in military colors with the captions they visited the last surviving F2G in a museum. So there are only three F2Gs in the world?
Chappie
Considering there were only 10 F2Gs produced, the fact that 3 of them still exist more than 65 years later is pretty remarkable. Could you imagine if 30% of any other World War II type was still extant?
Yeah, I could still buy a B-24 for $450.
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