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Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:40 am

SaxMan wrote:
Chappie wrote:Lastly- the website shows an F2G in military colors with the captions they visited the last surviving F2G in a museum. So there are only three F2Gs in the world?


Chappie


Considering there were only 10 F2Gs produced, the fact that 3 of them still exist more than 65 years later is pretty remarkable. Could you imagine if 30% of any other World War II type was still extant?



Ah, I see. I knew there was a small run of F2Gs, but I did not know it was that small! Hopefully the current owner of #57 will bring it out for a little while and make some appearences with #74.


Chappie

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:07 am

SaxMan wrote:
Chappie wrote:Lastly- the website shows an F2G in military colors with the captions they visited the last surviving F2G in a museum. So there are only three F2Gs in the world?


Chappie


Considering there were only 10 F2Gs produced, the fact that 3 of them still exist more than 65 years later is pretty remarkable. Could you imagine if 30% of any other World War II type was still extant?

Well 30% is a good number and in fact we are about that when it comes to n3n s. But sadly the bulk of that 30% still remain as projects. We are showing a increase in numbers as two have already taken to the air for the first time this year.

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:35 am

It MUST be flown to Stratford,Ct. Bring it to where it all began

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:28 am

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:It MUST be flown to Stratford,Ct. Bring it to where it all began


Since it was a GOODYEAR instead of a Chance Vought, shouldn't it be to Akron? :lol:

Actually, that reminds me of a really good story in one of Robert Hull's books...can't remember if it's "Season of Eagles" or "September Champioins". But it relates how Cook Cleland got his F2G's for the air races and in some fast-talking that is almost of Ormond Haydon-Ballie proportions, got Chance Vought to 'race prepare' one of the Corsairs, and Goodyear to prep the other one...and started playing them against each other. "Well, you're not going to let THOSE guys beat us, are you?"

Both companies went all-out to try to defend the honor of 'their' Corsair. Pretty funny. By the time it was all said and done, of course, both 74 and 94 won, so everyone was happy.

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:38 am

Speedy wrote:
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:It MUST be flown to Stratford,Ct. Bring it to where it all began


Since it was a GOODYEAR instead of a Chance Vought, shouldn't it be to Akron? :lol:

Actually, that reminds me of a really good story in one of Robert Hull's books...can't remember if it's "Season of Eagles" or "September Champioins". But it relates how Cook Cleland got his F2G's for the air races and in some fast-talking that is almost of Ormond Haydon-Ballie proportions, got Chance Vought to 'race prepare' one of the Corsairs, and Goodyear to prep the other one...and started playing them against each other. "Well, you're not going to let THOSE guys beat us, are you?"

Both companies went all-out to try to defend the honor of 'their' Corsair. Pretty funny. By the time it was all said and done, of course, both 74 and 94 won, so everyone was happy.


You are correct, but CHANCE-VOUGHT designed it,built it, tested it, military excepted it.Then let Goodyear help out. I demand that it comes to connecticut and take me for a ride! :lol: Wherever it flies, i'd love to see it!

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:45 am

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:
Speedy wrote:
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:It MUST be flown to Stratford,Ct. Bring it to where it all began


Since it was a GOODYEAR instead of a Chance Vought, shouldn't it be to Akron? :lol:

Actually, that reminds me of a really good story in one of Robert Hull's books...can't remember if it's "Season of Eagles" or "September Champioins". But it relates how Cook Cleland got his F2G's for the air races and in some fast-talking that is almost of Ormond Haydon-Ballie proportions, got Chance Vought to 'race prepare' one of the Corsairs, and Goodyear to prep the other one...and started playing them against each other. "Well, you're not going to let THOSE guys beat us, are you?"

Both companies went all-out to try to defend the honor of 'their' Corsair. Pretty funny. By the time it was all said and done, of course, both 74 and 94 won, so everyone was happy.


You are correct, but CHANCE-VOUGHT designed it,built it, tested it, military excepted it.Then let Goodyear help out. I demand that it comes to connecticut and take me for a ride! :lol: Wherever it flies, i'd love to see it!


FYI to those who care...
Race 74 spent time at the Vought Plant in Stratford just before the Thompson Trophy Race (I think it was 1947 or !948, can't remember). It was being tweaked by P&W engine guys in Stratford. Somewhere on WIX was posted two color slides of 74 in front of the Stratford hangars, so at least 74 did spend some time at the place of it's older brothers birth!

So yes, it should come home for a visit one day soon!
Jerry

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:13 pm

F2G racers,

http://www.airrace.com/CorsairStatusList2.html

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:43 pm

The F2G has got to be the ultimate "manly" warbird. That's a lot of nose out in front of you.

It may not be the prettiest or the fastest, but it just has that "Wow!" factor.

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:46 pm

:wink:

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:06 pm

hahnej wrote:The F2G has got to be the ultimate "manly" warbird. That's a lot of nose out in front of you.

It may not be the prettiest or the fastest, but it just has that "Wow!" factor.


+1...except I happen to think bent wing birds are phenomenally sexy.

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:19 am

Jerry O'Neill wrote:FYI to those who care...
Race 74 spent time at the Vought Plant in Stratford just before the Thompson Trophy Race (I think it was 1947 or !948, can't remember). It was being tweaked by P&W engine guys in Stratford. Somewhere on WIX was posted two color slides of 74 in front of the Stratford hangars, so at least 74 did spend some time at the place of it's older brothers birth!

So yes, it should come home for a visit one day soon!
Jerry



I agree! Someone should find those old photos of 74 at Stratford and then place the "new" #74 in the sma e spot and take photo from same angle. Love recreating old photos!!


Chappie

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:21 am

Thanks for the update! I was in Fargo a few weeks ago and was kicking myself because I didn't have time to squeeze in the short trip down to Kindred during my schedule. The last time I was there it was disassembled and on hold, and #57 had the cowls off of it with an enormous number of spark plugs laid out on a table. Seeing #74 restored and flying will be awesome, but it was also amazing to see it at Walter's a long time ago too. A friend of mine gets to occasionally visit the Pratt collection, and see #57 there. As for the 3rd remaining one, I almost had to snuggle up next to 88454 for the night when the docent at the Champlin museum almost locked me inside when they were closing up...but that's another story that I've already told here somewhere a long time ago. I've seen it in Seattle too....never gets old.

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:23 am

:D

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:17 am

My apologies the the original poster. (I forgot who first put these up but I hope they don't mind me re-posting them and I hope they chime in and claim ownership)
Here's Race 74 at Stratford in color and B&W on Oct. 16, 1947.
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I'd love to get it back here soon! (just for a weekend!)
Jerry

Re: F2G Test Run coming soon...

Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:20 am

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:
Speedy wrote:
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:It MUST be flown to Stratford,Ct. Bring it to where it all began


Since it was a GOODYEAR instead of a Chance Vought, shouldn't it be to Akron? :lol:

Actually, that reminds me of a really good story in one of Robert Hull's books...can't remember if it's "Season of Eagles" or "September Champioins". But it relates how Cook Cleland got his F2G's for the air races and in some fast-talking that is almost of Ormond Haydon-Ballie proportions, got Chance Vought to 'race prepare' one of the Corsairs, and Goodyear to prep the other one...and started playing them against each other. "Well, you're not going to let THOSE guys beat us, are you?"

Both companies went all-out to try to defend the honor of 'their' Corsair. Pretty funny. By the time it was all said and done, of course, both 74 and 94 won, so everyone was happy.


You are correct, but CHANCE-VOUGHT designed it,built it, tested it, military excepted it.Then let Goodyear help out. I demand that it comes to connecticut and take me for a ride! :lol: Wherever it flies, i'd love to see it!


True, they did that for the "regular" Corsair, but how much development did they do on the F2Gs?

While we are making demands, I demand that the FG-1D being restored in Stratford be sent back to Akron where it was built! :wink: :wink: :wink: Just giving you a hard time :D
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