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Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:22 am

Finally, here are photos of other objects we find in crash site. We have again a lot of work to do because we just search accurately 2 of 20 sm of crash site.

Any identification will be welcomed! Thanks.



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9 Parts of field bed
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16 To open window?
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17 Cutter?
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18 Bullett proof jacket
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24 Sun glasses fragments
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Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:28 am

salerno1943 wrote:8
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Hi Matteo

This look like the support of a stretcher
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Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:51 am

I am pretty sure that Photo 8 is the "foot" of a medical stretcher.

Edit: Well....Patrick has a six-hour jump on me again!!! He is having lunch and I am still on my first cup of coffee!

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:54 am

Ah Ah Ah.. I was not sure that the word "foot" was used in this case... that's why I used "support" :D

Edit : Dave.... Lunch is already done!

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:15 am

Photo 14--the D shaped item top row second from left looks to be the INSIDE of a Quick Attachable Chest parachute pack where the risers are bundled and attached to the pack assembly.

(NOTE: There were two color groups of QAC--Red and Yellow. Red had hooks on the parachute pack and D rings on the harness. Yellow had hooks on the harness and D-rings on the back of the pack. Red packs do not mate with yellow harnesses.) The D ring shown is the anchor point for the risers, not the exterior part that attaches to the harness hooks.

The rip cord handle in the same photo looks a little large for a chest pack. More likely from a seat-pack assembly or a back pack assembly.

Photo 22: The two matching outer metal pieces--round top and slotted bottom--are parts of a chest chute pack---the rings that go over the cones--to hold the cover closed.

Photo 32: These hook-and-eyes are also part of the closing apparatus of a chest pack parachute.

Edit: Also in Photo 22: The object with the ball tip bottom row second from left is the plug end of a headset. PL-54. The outside shell was either red or black bakelite/plastic. This would mate with JK-26 which would be the extension cord to the commo gear.

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:37 am

Photo 6: Spring mounts for radio/electronic gear.

Matteo--Please use a non-reflective paper or wood ruler to show the scale of the items. Or tell us the size of your floor tiles so we can judge the relative size of the pieces! :?

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:33 am

Pathfinder wrote:Photo 6: Spring mounts for radio/electronic gear.

Matteo--Please use a non-reflective paper or wood ruler to show the scale of the items. Or tell us the size of your floor tiles so we can judge the relative size of the pieces! :?


I'm agree with you. I need to find a not reflective meter. Please note that any part of meter is 10 centimeter. I'm sorry!

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:35 am

Thanks Pathfinder for your identification. Please, do you can (if possible) post a photo to show, like do Patelie, these objects like them were in origin? Thanks! This well be more useful to us to understand what these object were.

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:19 pm

Matteo

In picture 13, the piece which is on second row, right is located on the center wing. There are six of these pieces between the nacelle and the fuselage, on each side of the fuselage. I don't know their exact nomenclature nor their name. I think they were here to avoid formation of gaz in the center wing (they are upon the fuel tanks)
look at picture

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Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:26 pm

salerno1943 wrote:15
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Bottom and 1st part on the left are control rods of some kind.
2nd I can't ID
3rd is a arm attached to the bottom of the fuel strainer (filter) and secures a cap onto the bottom of the cast alum housing. Internally there a tube screen to catch debris in the fuel before being delivered to the carb on the engine.
Items 4 and 5 appear to be the ends of some kind of elastic band shock cord.
6 is an end swaged onto control cables. Being SS it doesn't corrode or melt the same as the steel cable or the turn-barrel it was threaded into.
7th item is a clutch used in the throttle quadrants of aircraft. For each moving lever there is 2 of these, some method of applying pressure is used to increase or decrease pressure on the throttle, mixture and propellor levers to suit the needs of the pilots.

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:32 pm

Thanks 51 fixer and Patelie!

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:06 pm

51fixer wrote:
salerno1943 wrote:15
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Bottom and 1st part on the left are control rods of some kind.
2nd I can't ID
3rd is a arm attached to the bottom of the fuel strainer (filter) and secures a cap onto the bottom of the cast alum housing. Internally there a tube screen to catch debris in the fuel before being delivered to the carb on the engine.
Items 4 and 5 appear to be the ends of some kind of elastic band shock cord.
6 is an end swaged onto control cables. Being SS it doesn't corrode or melt the same as the steel cable or the turn-barrel it was threaded into.
7th item is a clutch used in the throttle quadrants of aircraft. For each moving lever there is 2 of these, some method of applying pressure is used to increase or decrease pressure on the throttle, mixture and propellor levers to suit the needs of the pilots.


Items 4 and 5 look like the springs that go on the old Army cots.

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:20 pm

Pic 4 - It's hard to tell the size. With the 4 slots, it looks like an end cap to some hollow tubing??? Or.......some of the helos I worked on have a cap or nut like that and it takes a special spanner wrench to install or take off. Both of those are guesses.

Pic 17 - Again...hard to tell the size. Kinda looks like scraper or flat file with the wood handle rotted off.

Pic 30 - The two little round items on the left side that have the red and blue(?) bands look like some type of electronic/electrical part...maybe a resister?

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:43 am

Photo #2 is a baffle that is attached between the cylinders of the engine. These wrap around each side of the cylinder to direct cooling air.

Re: From a C-47 crash site. Someone can help us?

Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:23 am

salerno1943 wrote:15
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I believe items 4 and 5 are adjusters from US Army tent ropes. (Slips, Tent, Wire. #24-S-1070 or similar)

All the best,
PB
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