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Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:39 am

As I recall. The CAF sold this ZERO about 5-7 years ago. I believe DAVID PRICE purchased it and re-donated it back to the CAF.

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:05 am

Prospective purchasers should get a copy of "The Defender" to see the original restoration of this aircraft. Be vewy, vewy afwaid....

Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:59 am

I agree with BDK.

The movie "The Defender" is a must see for anyone interested in warbirds.

Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:05 pm

Where are copies available? I've never seen it and I'd love to check out Diemert's idea for a 'future fighter' and his odd restoration techniques.

Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:06 pm

Eureka181 wrote:The A6M3 cockpit is restored authentically. Basically everything is set up as if it were WW2. Only with modern radios, DME, and transponder.


Okay, I take it back...

WTF was Mitsubishi thinking?! :)

Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:32 pm

Randy Haskin wrote:Where are copies available? I've never seen it and I'd love to check out Diemert's idea for a 'future fighter' and his odd restoration techniques.


Send me your address......

Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:40 pm

Randy Haskin wrote:Where are copies available? I've never seen it and I'd love to check out Diemert's idea for a 'future fighter' and his odd restoration techniques.

Maybe some of our Canuck friends can 'splain this to us- Do you need to be an educator in Canada to order?

http://bedivere.edu.gov.mb.ca:4100/cgi-bin/bestn?id=&bsid=379678855&act=8&auto=1&nov=1&t0=%22Diemert%2C+Bob%2E%3B%22&i0=1&s0=5&v1=0&sc=2&sy=0&ey=0&scr=1

http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/ks4/iru/publications/bibliographies/flight-1999-05.pdf#search='the%20defender%20diemert'

http://www.yorktonshortfilm.org/winners1989.htm

Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:01 pm

The National film board produced that video and is for sale for $29.95.

Try this link http://www2.nfb.ca/boutique/ibeCCtpItmD ... upport=VHS or go to their website at http://www.nfb.ca and look under the NFB Store.

Brian....

Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:46 pm

Well spotted BLR!

http://www2.nfb.ca/boutique/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?a=b&formatid=17667&support=VHS

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Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:19 pm

It never did fly!

Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:56 pm

I was at Harlingen the year they had the NEW Zero ( A6m2) on display ( not flying ). PVC leading edges, pop rivets, hand brushed Rustoleum primer over copious amounts of Bondo showing through. It was pathetic.
My understanding was that the CAF had paid him large amounts of money and he kept delaying delivery. The CAF General Satff finally gave him a ultimatum and the aircraft was delivered.

Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:59 pm

Oscar Duck wrote:Not sure about being a PW R-1830 "copy"...

Nakajima Sakae

Nakajima Sakae engine on a Mitsubishi ZeroThe Nakajima Sakae (栄, "glory") was a two-row, 14-cylinder air-cooled radial engine used in Japanese aircraft during World War II. It was version of the famous Gnome-Rhône 14K, a license for which had been taken out in 1936. "Sakae" was the navy designation; the army called it the Ha-25 (ハ25). A total of 21,166 were made by Nakajima; 9,067 were manufactured by other firms.


Specifications
Displacement : 27.9 liters
Bore and stroke : 130 × 150mm
Length : 1,425mm
Diameter : 1,115 mm

Models
Sakae 21 : 1,130 hp (840 kW)


Well, what can I say. I admit I am not an engine historian, but the Sakae is basically the same engine as the R-1830. Like I said in an earlier post I personally inspected the Nakajima Sakae engine recovered with our A6M3-22 Zero and it is very much like the R-1830. Also it really depends on the model of the R-1830 you are comparing to the Sakae.

Anyway, my whole point on telling about the engine is, the R-1830 in our Zero is just like the Sakae in most all ways (sound, power, etc.).

Eric

Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:12 pm

DazDaMan wrote:Nice pic. I thought it was a firmer guess at two, but I'm not so up on the Zero!

What about the Blayde (sp?) one? Is that the North Dakota one?


The Blayde Zero is the North Dakota one.

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Eric

Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:12 pm

I seem to remember there was some talk of the engine being sabotaged while the aircraft was under "restoration"

Has it ever flown since delivery?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:30 pm

Manonthefence wrote:I seem to remember there was some talk of the engine being sabotaged while the aircraft was under "restoration"

Has it ever flown since delivery?
Yes, for years. In fact it flew to Camarillo, California where it was grounded. If I'm not mistaken it was undergoing its second restoration since Diemert "restored" it.

Although anything is possible, I can't imagine a motive for sabotaging the engine. Seems to me that a simple engine failure is more likely. That's what oil screens are for after all.

I've had a good look at Diemert's workmanship on both the Val and the Zero. Different people definately have different standards regarding airworthiness! No surprise the Canadian gov't wouldn't license them.
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