Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:16 pm
Thanks for the correction on the TBM ID Jim.
Here is how the P-82 looked on 9-30-05
Here is how the P-82 looked on 9-30-05
Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:57 pm
MX304 wrote:TimApNy wrote:Any public word on the fate of the P-82? (not to start any fires but the last pictures posted it was in pieces)
The answer to that lies a few post up in this thread.
Must have missed the several post there between all those pictures.
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:51 pm
Love the 'weathered' look of the Bearcat. 
Looks like a real warhorse. Are those older markings begining to show beneath the current ones on the starboard side of the fuselage?
Looks like a real warhorse. Are those older markings begining to show beneath the current ones on the starboard side of the fuselage?
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:56 pm
The Bearcat isn't as weathered looking as my pics make it appear. Most of that is from the relentless west Texas winds blowing dirt onto and into everything all the time. The bark brown stripes down the fuse are from the dirt caked into the oil streak that flows down the sides. I am so glad I don't live in the half of the state anymore. It's nice not being able to taste the air.
Airsho'
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:30 pm
To answer a couple of things....
A. The TBM is now assigned to the Florida Wing, out of Deland, Fl. Best of luck with the airplane.... lot of work, but really a complete airplane... this was the airplane from Austin.... One well known warbird restorer looked over the airplane before it was bought and tried to convince the new owner that this project was much bigger then he could handle out of his garage... the owner disagreed, so you see the results....
B. Chuck Gardner is going to post a few shots from our photo mission (Steve Rister and I) from his photobucket account... enjoy! Alan
A. The TBM is now assigned to the Florida Wing, out of Deland, Fl. Best of luck with the airplane.... lot of work, but really a complete airplane... this was the airplane from Austin.... One well known warbird restorer looked over the airplane before it was bought and tried to convince the new owner that this project was much bigger then he could handle out of his garage... the owner disagreed, so you see the results....
B. Chuck Gardner is going to post a few shots from our photo mission (Steve Rister and I) from his photobucket account... enjoy! Alan
Avro Shackleton
Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:03 am
The Avro Shackleton looks very clean in the photographs..was she just part of the static display or a flyer in the show??
Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:05 am
She flew this year after being on the ground for the past 5-6 years. I'm not sure what the future plans are for the aircraft.
Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:56 pm
This is from Saturday's show..
Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:46 pm
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:28 pm
Nice air-to-air shots Chuck. I heard something about an air-to-air photoshoot with the F8F and F4U. Did you go on that photoshoot?
Eric
Eric
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:57 pm
Col. Rohr wrote:Eric,
Yes your correct about all aircraft going back to the original owners which means the USAFM gets the Twin Stang back since they are the original owners. One thing that is never discussed is the original LOAN AGREEMENT the CAF had with the USAFM in that it states that the CAF are allowed to do ONE FERRY FLIGHT only. Also it states that when and if the CAF dicide that it is not part of their ongoing collection then the aircraft must be return to the USAFM. This is far from being resolved their is the matter of the person who bought the P-38 and the Spitfire that was purchase with the money from the sale of the P-38.And before anyone start on me for saying I have no clue what I'm talking about remember folks I talk with the USAFM every few weeks.
Cheers
RER
Do you know how long it has been since the P-82 was flown?
Eric
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:44 pm
It's last flight was at Airsho' 1988 I think. It was damaged in a belly landing after a prop seal failure. That was the second prop seal failure that weekend I believe. The second seal was a last minute replacement for the "wrong way" prop side that was a last minute "find".
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:11 pm
Without getting into a pissing contest with Rob, the original agreement does not exactly say what he says. Let's let the thing settle out....it will be better for everyone.
The Spitfire issue is separate from the P-38 and the P-82.
Bill Coombes
General Staff
The Spitfire issue is separate from the P-38 and the P-82.
Bill Coombes
General Staff
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:16 pm
Oh, ya...the pictures of the SNJ's. That is my airplane #24 in the lead, with Steve Rister in the backseat, John Currenti in the CAF High Sky Wing SNJ #101, and Jim Munn in his SNJ #44. I've been trying to get all of these Pensacola paint job SNJs in one photo mission for five years! Thanks to Doug Matthews (flying the CAF SBD with Alan Brooks as photog) and cooperative weather on Thursday prior to Airsho, we pulled it off.
Bill
Bill
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:27 pm
MX304 wrote:It's last flight was at Airsho' 1988 I think. It was damaged in a belly landing after a prop seal failure. That was the second prop seal failure that weekend I believe. The second seal was a last minute replacement for the "wrong way" prop side that was a last minute "find".
The accident was on the Saturday of Airsho87 in Harlingen. I always heard that the pilot flared too high on landing, stalled and smacked it into the ground. I don't remember if both gear failed on landing, but I do remember seeing it sitting on it's bell after it was removed from the runway. Seems like this was the same year the nose gear collapsed on the B-26. If not, then that was Airshow86. Somewhere I have pictures of both of them after they were broke.
Come to think of it, that might also be the year that the PBJ "Devil Dog" jumped a chock, spun around and hit a tug with the number one prop during an engine run.
I know for sure that the PBY crash was during airsho84. And the A-20 crashed at Airsho88.