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Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:24 pm
I was just watching an episode of "Dogfights" topic was aircraft speed. One segment was with the Corsair but some short historical video showed a flight of Corsairs with a razor back fuselage configuration. I was not aware of that airframe. I would assume it to be an early variant.
What say you WIX brain trust? Thanks.
Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:52 pm
Birdcage?
Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:22 pm
Nice photo with strong color, too bad the negative has been reversed. Look @ the location of the antenna mast.
Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:26 pm
Correctamundo!
What is the history of this version? What time frame? How many?
Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:41 pm
sdennison wrote:Correctamundo!
What is the history of this version? What time frame? How many?
One of these birdcage Corsairs was pulled out of Lake Michigan in November 2010. Although I'm not 100% on this, I think the only other Corsair with a birdcage canopy around today is the Brewster Corsair.
www.brewstercorsair.com
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Pat Carry on Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:53 pm
One more ex-flyer with a birdcage is in the TAM museum in Brazil.
Jerry
Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:36 pm
Jerry O'Neill wrote:One more ex-flyer with a birdcage is in the TAM museum in Brazil.
Jerry
There is only one more or less complete birdcage F4U-1, which is the example recovered for the Navy Museum from lake Michigan. The one down at TAM is actually an F4U-1A, which was retrofitted to look like a birdcage example. The Brewster Corsair is also a -1A variant. That being said, there is an F4U-1 being restored to static in Australia (Bu.02270 at Classic Jets Fighter Museum). Also, there is a Corsair project in the USA (I forget where) which incorporates the rear fuselage of a birdcage variant (from station 186 on back)... This is the example which was under offer by Ross Jowitt in New Zealand a decade or so ago. That's about it for early Corsair variant survivors. It's always possible that a Corsair Mk.I will resurface somewhere in New England though, as the Royal Navy used about a hundred of them as trainers during the war. I surely hope that happens...
Cheers,
Richard
Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:44 pm
RMAllnutt wrote:It's always possible that a Corsair Mk.I will resurface somewhere in New England though, as the Royal Navy used about a hundred of them as trainers during the war. I surely hope that happens...
Isn't there a relatively intact ex-Royal Navy birdcage Corsair off the New England coast somewhere that still contains the pilot's remains?
Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:32 pm
There are two in Sebago Lake in Maine with the pilot's remains inside. They are "unrecoverable" due to them being marked as official war graves.
Jerry
Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:39 pm
Wasn't the Planes of Fame F4U originally a birdcage variant?
Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:51 pm
Aren't all (but the few surviving Goodyear Corsairs with the bubble canopy) Corsairs Razorbacks?
I believe the term is usually applied to non-bubble hood Thunderbolts and Mustangs...unless I'm missing something.
As mentioned above, I believe the correct term is birdcage (ie, non-Malcolm-like, blown hood).
Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:52 pm
Info online says the 689th F4U-1 was the first one with a raised cockpit and clear view bubbled canopy making it the first F4U-1D, a number of the earlier ones were retro fitted with a 'bump' in the overhead glazing in service but kept the original style framing and shoulder windows.
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