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Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:53 am
This Saturday Oct 7 DISCOVERY Channel is doing a program about what happens during an airliner crash using a 727-200. Question is, does anyone know the N#/msn/original operator of this bird? Since I worked on a bunch of them in the factory and afterwards @ BADWRENCH it would be interesting to know.
Pretty tough old girl isn't it? I guess the leadup was to over explain basic airliner to Mr. & Mrs. Average on the couch, but I'd have liked to see a bit more of the airframe post impact, I see all but slats #1 &2 got hammered and the gear tore the entire inboard flap assemblies off as I sort of expected given trunnion and sta. 870 walking beam design, I was surprised to see the forward fuselage fail and tear away so cleanly @ about sta 500 in the middle of the 43 section barrel and not @ the sta 360 join ring
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The Inspector on Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:25 am
well Bob Dole used it on the campaign trail a number of years ago. Im sure some research could pull the N number that way from a press photo.
Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:37 am
The aircraft in question was 727-212 c/n 21348, last registered as N293AS, ex-Champion Airlines, ex-Alaska Airlines.
Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:04 am
Thanks much!! Apparently original operator was SINGAPORE AIRLINES as it's original registration # was 9V-SGB, I know I laid hands on it while @ BADWRENCH as we did steady trade with ALASKA. CHAMPION was a division of NORTHWEST and several of their 727's were converted on a seasonal basis into semi executive configuration and leased as 'team planes' to various NBA teams. We kept the interiors and did the swapouts in both directions @ KPAE.
It's going to be hard for me to watch this old acquaintance die, but at least she went with a bang and as a teaching moment and not bit by bit to the beer can factory.
Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:09 am
As time has gone on (small scale here) I've started wishing I'd kept a log of all the airplanes I fueled for charter companies and such (not as interested in the mainliners because they're a dime-a-dozen) to look back at them and see what's happened to the more interesting ones I fueled. I have photos of a few of the planes (one of ATI's DC-8-62F's, several of the An-124s, an Algerian IL-76, some of DHL's wingleted 727-100's, a Zantop L188F, etc), but there are planes I fueled that I didn't get photos of that I wish I had the registrations on because they were interesting planes and it'd be neat to try and meet up with some of them again and see what they look like now.
Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:45 pm
Cherrybomber13 wrote:well Bob Dole used it on the campaign trail a number of years ago. Im sure some research could pull the N number that way from a press photo.
So it deserves to get blown up?
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Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:10 pm
Wildchild wrote:Cherrybomber13 wrote:well Bob Dole used it on the campaign trail a number of years ago. Im sure some research could pull the N number that way from a press photo.
So it deserves to get blown up?
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No, and no one said anything about or like that, but having back links helps track down the history of an airframe, like I'm curious about the N # on the Romney MD-80 to see who it's original operator might have been and how many other opertators it may have been with. N#'s and msn's let me and others check online links to track down a particular airframe.
A good example? In this mornings birdcage liner in 'Today in History' noted that on Oct 4, 1960 an EASTERN L-188A crashed fatally on takeoff from Boston Logan, in less than three minutes I knew it was N 5533, msn 1062 and it's EAL fleet # was 533 by checking my on line resources.
Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:18 pm
CAPFlyer wrote:The aircraft in question was 727-212 c/n 21348, last registered as N293AS, ex-Champion Airlines, ex-Alaska Airlines.
Here's what N293AS looked like on September 23, 2001:
(about to transport Cindy and me from MBJ to DFW)
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