Corsair ID? Mojave 1980

[b747cf]

Here are a few Pictures of N46WB taken at OpaLocka around 1977.







This Corsair is now owned by Yegan.





Mark Fidler

[zorro7]

F4U Folks/B747cf:

Tks for the posting of #46 at OppaLocka, Fla.

Included is another shot of poss the same aircraft at Macdill AFB, c. Jan 1975 during an airshow. Sorry, the numbers are a bit small on the V/stab & under the H/Stab for id. It's poss N46WB. Still doing some more digging!

p.s Does that look like a DC-3 prop to you folks??

[Jollygreenslugg]

Thanks Mark,

That's funny, I didn't think that the Corsair and the Messerschmittt were natural adversaries!

Cheers,
Matt

[zorro7]

Mojave Corsair Folks:

Good day!

The picture below is the most likely aircraft used in the movie I-Max "Flying" to simulate the carrier forced landing. Poss Buno 92508. I have not seen the movie to observe the disassembled aircraft or pics of it but I doubt it's Buno F4U-5N 124447 as it sat at Chino Airport for quite some time unpainted c. 1980s.

The pic of the damaged forced carrier landing aircraft emerged on WIX sometime ago & it looked pretty much as the picture at the beginning of this thread, 3/4 view with a L/wing damaged. In addition, the Pima County Museum folks may have downloaded this aircraft but it probably went someplace else. Still digging for the mentioned WIX picture.Photo Steve Nelson via Wix.

[mike furline]

Mojave Corsair Folks:

Good day!

The picture below is the most likely aircraft used in the movie I-Max "Flying" to simulate the carrier forced landing. Poss Buno 92508. I have not seen the movie to observe the disassembled aircraft or pics of it but I doubt it's Buno F4U-5N 124447 as it sat at Chino Airport for quite some time unpainted c. 1980s.

The pic of the damaged forced carrier landing aircraft emerged on WIX sometime ago & it looked pretty much as the picture at the beginning of this thread, 3/4 view with a L/wing damaged. In addition, the Pima County Museum folks may have downloaded this aircraft but it probably went someplace else. Still digging for the mentioned WIX picture.Photo Steve Nelson via Wix.

This is not FG-1D 92508, it's an F4U-4. Notice the exhaust cutout aft of the cowl flaps. This aircraft is at Pima, most likely 97349.
This is not F4U-5N 124447, not the correct type of airframe.

[Rob Mears]

This aircraft is actually FG-1D, BuNo.92246, which is now displayed at the National Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola, FL. The two planes were strikingly similar. If you look at BuNo.92246 at the museum, you'll see that the markings are basically the same today, except the museum changed the '4' into an '8' in tribute to Pappy Boyington.

[zorro7]

Mojave F4U Folks:

Good Day!

B747cf: Tks for the posting oll those F4Us pics. Do you have any other angles of your 1st pic of #46 with a poss DC-3 prop??

Rob: Tks for the id of my 1st Corsair pic in my photo album. When you guys get done with the updates will prob be able to clarify all the Bunos. i.e Buno FG-1D 92246 is also shown being received in Navy records as Buno F4U-4 81415?

[mike furline]

Mojave F4U Folks:


Rob: Tks for the id of my 1st Corsair pic in my photo album. When you guys get done with the updates will prob be able to clarify all the Bunos. i.e Buno FG-1D 92246 is also shown being received in Navy records as Buno F4U-4 81415?

I'm having a difficult time trying to follow what you are either asking or saying. (???)

FG-1D 92246 http://www.warbirdregistry.org/corsairr ... 92246.html


F4U-4 81415 http://www.warbirdregistry.org/corsairr ... 81415.html

[bdk]

So have we confirmed which one had the polka dots on the cowl?

[Rob Mears]

F4U-4, BuNo.97349 had the red polka dots with white background on its cowling (VMA-332 markings). Its the same F4U-4 now displayed suspended from the ceiling at the NNAM in Pensacola.

[zorro7]

F4U Mojave Folks:

Good day!

After some diggings/readings here in Wix, about the Mojave Corsair #46 it appears now to be Buno F4U-4, Buno 97142. The sample now located at Pima Air Museum. There were also other similar #46s in the 70s/80s.

Does anyone remember or have a Wix photo when c. 1980s the same Corsair #46 was just laying on a flat bed , no wheels just resting on its wings at Mohave?? I think nick "inspector" recalls something similar here on Wix.

p.s Still digging for it!!!

[skymstr02]

p.s Does that look like a DC-3 prop to you folks?

A DC-3 prop is too small to fit on the R-2800 prop shaft. The splines on the R-1830/R-1820 are SAE 50 and the splines on the R-2800 used on an FG-1D are SAE 60 size. When you get to the F4U-5 with the larger R-2800-32W, the splines go up to SAE 70.

[bdk]

Thanks Rob!

[zorro7]

S02:

Good Day!

Tks for info/data on that chrome prop on #46!

p.s BDK.. the "polka dots" id is still pending!

[51fixer]

p.s Does that look like a DC-3 prop to you folks?

A DC-3 prop is too small to fit on the R-2800 prop shaft. The splines on the R-1830/R-1820 are SAE 50 and the splines on the R-2800 used on an FG-1D are SAE 60 size. When you get to the F4U-5 with the larger R-2800-32W, the splines go up to SAE 70.

Actually, the 1830/1820/2600/2800A/B/Allison/Packard Merlin are SAE 50 Spline.
The later R-2800 series, 3350 and 4360 are 60 Spline.
A FG-1, F4U-1 and a DC-3 would share the 50 Spline. Even the many parts internal could be the same. There are some parts different due to the DC-3 is feathering and the Corsair isn't.
I want to say the B-25 and B-17 used the same prop/blades even though they have different engines.
I believe the F4U-5 had a R-2800-32W with a 34D60 prop and 6825A-0 blades.
F4U-1/FG-1D had a R-2800-10 or is it -8 with a 23E50.
The Blade types have different designations based on blade type. D and E and F blades are common on the Warbirds and large Transports.
Basic 3 Blade Prop types are 23D50, 33E50, 33E60, 23F60.
4 Blade- 24D50, 24E50, 24F60, 24E60.
1st number is a designation of the number of major changes to the basic design.
2nd is the number of blades.
Letter is the type of blade shank.
50 and 60 is the SAE Prop Shaft size. There is also 40, 30 and 20 Splines.
Some info-
http://www.enginehistory.org/Propellers ... mstd.shtml