Treasure trove unveiled at Fantasy of Flight

[Baldeagle]

Interesting aircraft here. Could someone provide a list.

Any photos or informaton on the Sopwith one-and-a-half strutter that has been listed in the collection? Was it seriously damaged in Hurricane Andrew?

Traded to New Zealand as part of the Albatros/Snipe deal I think. Presumably to be restored to fly. It was not damaged too badly in the hurricane.



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[marine air]

Ok here's a list;
1) Boeing B-29A
2) Lockheed 14 (Hudson)
3) Douglas B-23/C-67
4) Boeing B-17G
5) Beech AT-11/SNB-1
6) N.A.A. NA-16 Yale (Canadien silver)
7) N.A.A. BT-14/ Yale (yellow)
N.A.A. SNJ-2 Texan (note shape of rudder)
9) Morane Saulnier MS 230. (parasol wing)
10) Curtiss AT-22 Falcon ( Wright eng/red paint scheme)
11 Yugoslav SOKO (Lycoming engine & similar to DHC-1 Chipmunk)
12) Messerschmitt BF-108B Taifun (prop is from a Storch)
13) Grumman F9F Panther (blue fuselage)
These are just guesses, but are "mostly right."

[Steve Nelson]

Close. What you referred to as a "Silver Yale" is actually an SBD Dauntless, but for some reason it's got an undersized cuffed four-blade Curtiss Electric prop (I didn't get a closeup, as my time was limited and I was focusing on the more rare stuff.)

The "Yellow Yale" is actually an Australian Wirraway.



There's also a Ju-52 fuselage barely visible lurking in the back corner of pic #1.



Not sure where you're seeing the SNJ-2, unless you're referring to the Wirraway rudder.

SN

[marine air]

I didnt really look at the Dauntless. The Wirraway, noticed it had the early tail and perspex, and also noted it has fabric on the sides instead of aluminum panels like the T-6.
The prop on the Dauntless actually is for a Curtiss SOC-3 Seagull.
THeres a WW I or just post WWI fuselage there,no clue. Thomas Morse?

There's also a red fabric covered fuselage. Nearby are a pair of wings that might match. Just a guess,but I'd say a Stampe SV-4C.

[P51Mstg]

I saw the S-55, knew the prior owner... Basically he said... FIND SOME BLADES FOR IT..... Shouldn't be really hard, but then....

Mark H

[b747cf]

The Dauntless was used as a wind machine in the movies.






Mark Fidler

[tulsaboy]

I could be wrong, but I believe that the Dauntless is actually a Douglas-Tulsa built A-24. An even rarer beast than the SBD.

kevin

[Wildchild]

Nope, it's an A-24.

[Baldeagle]

The fuselage next to the Dauntless is an Orenco Model F, sole survivor of a very rare type even in its day. This particular one has an even more interesting story, as it was once owned by famous Long Beach pilot Earl Daugherty, who got married in it! It has two open cockpits, each one with side-by-side seating, flown from the rear. I guess the preacher and the witness rode in the front. The rear cockpit has side-by-side rudder bars, which looks odd, but makes sense. Here's Earl with the airplane in the 1920s:


Later on it ended up with Paul Mantz, who modified it to look like a Navy VE-7 for the movie "Task Force" in 1949, and it's also visible in the line up at the "military field in Texas" in "The Spirit of St. Louis".




I'm pretty sure that the grey wings in the racks in one of the other photos belong to the Orenco.


And here's a photo of one fresh from the factory:


Is that trivial enough for you?



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[Chris Brame]

Restore the B-29...!!!!

Restore the P-35A...!!!!

[Baldeagle]

Another interesting bird is on the far right of this photo, the dull orange fuselage is a Curtiss Oriole, and the uncovered wings in the racks might belong to it.


I think the cream colored wings in the racks are for the Kreider-Reisner KR-31, and it might be the fuselage of that just showing in the bottom right corner of the above photo.



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[TEN]

Here's a link to the HAG forum with some great shots of the hangar and it's contents.

http://1941hagforums.mykingairb200.com/ ... 7924#p7924

[jack973]

good to see that this posting turned into interesting information!!

[Steve Nelson]

Restore the P-35A...!!!!

Good news..it's already underway. I took these during our visit last August..I can only assume it's further along now.









I remember seeing this one at the NMUSAF back in the day. They had one on display, and one in the Annex with the wings off..I don't recall which was which. As I recall, Kermit's is actually an export model, and the NMUSAF traded it to him after they'd acquired a genuine P-35.

SN

[b747cf]

Here is the P-35 at the USAF Museum.



This one is at Weeks Museum in Miami.



And this one is at Fantasy of Flight.




Mark Fidler