Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:34 am
RMAllnutt wrote:If this is the Vengeance, and I think it is, she was cut up for scrap in India over a year ago. They dragged her onto a beach and cut her up where she lay... a very undignified end to the last Royal Navy carrier which saw combat in the second world war. Wouldn't have cost much to buy her... but maintaining her was a whole different story!
Richard
See my post above.
Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:36 am
TEXANTOMCAT wrote:Well guys -
I thought it was the USS Phoenix which became the General Belgrano and was sunk in the Falklands in 1982...... but you chaps seem to know more about the whole thang than me!
real shame about the carrier though it would have been wonderful to have a UK equivalent of Intrepid....
TT
Phoenix/Belgrano was a cruiser rather than a battleship though.
I agree about Vengeance, it would have been wonderful. Though I guess the economics of it were just too much.
Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:39 am
Bugger sorry - good bit of trivia though!
TT
TT
Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:06 am
The USS Phoenix / General Belgrano did indeed survive the attack on Pearl Harbor, but was not a battleship. She was a Brooklyn-class light cruiser.
Walt
Sorry for the duplication of info. I didn't notice there was a 2nd page to this thread.
W
Walt
Sorry for the duplication of info. I didn't notice there was a 2nd page to this thread.
W
Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:47 am
Just found this:
Hms Vengeance has just arrived in India to be scrapped - following 60 years service with 3 navies (Royal Navy, Royal Australian Navy and the Brazilian Navy)
And these sad photos:
http://www.hms-vengeance.co.uk/farewell.htm
Idiots!
Cheers
Andy
Hms Vengeance has just arrived in India to be scrapped - following 60 years service with 3 navies (Royal Navy, Royal Australian Navy and the Brazilian Navy)
And these sad photos:
http://www.hms-vengeance.co.uk/farewell.htm
Idiots!
Cheers
Andy
Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:00 am
Andy in West Oz wrote:Just found this:
Hms Vengeance has just arrived in India to be scrapped - following 60 years service with 3 navies (Royal Navy, Royal Australian Navy and the Brazilian Navy)
And these sad photos:
http://www.hms-vengeance.co.uk/farewell.htm
Idiots!
Cheers
Andy
Ever had that "why do I bother" feeling?
Anyway, Vengeance was scrapped two years ago, in 2004. A sad end to a grand old ship.
Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:40 pm
What happened to the USS Cabot was an absolute shame. It wasn't a problem that there were no takers, it was a problem that the scrapping company that purchased the ship wasn't interested in making any deals.
The group that bought the ship from Spain was a mismanaged group. When they couldn't pay the bills, the ship was seized and auctioned off. Several groups tried to save the Cabot, but all in vain. Because the ship was purchased privately, the U.S. Navy said they couldn't step in.
Eventually the ship, the only surviving CVL and the only World War II-era carrier with its original flight deck (and except for the island, virtually unchanged since World War II), was cut up for scrap. A museum in Texas was able to salvage the island and the CIC. Most of the scrap had not been sold as of 2004. What a waste.
FYI -- I think West Virginia and Maryland were the last of the Pearl Harbor battleships to survive.
The group that bought the ship from Spain was a mismanaged group. When they couldn't pay the bills, the ship was seized and auctioned off. Several groups tried to save the Cabot, but all in vain. Because the ship was purchased privately, the U.S. Navy said they couldn't step in.
Eventually the ship, the only surviving CVL and the only World War II-era carrier with its original flight deck (and except for the island, virtually unchanged since World War II), was cut up for scrap. A museum in Texas was able to salvage the island and the CIC. Most of the scrap had not been sold as of 2004. What a waste.
FYI -- I think West Virginia and Maryland were the last of the Pearl Harbor battleships to survive.
Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:08 am
Ever had that "why do I bother" feeling? Anyway, Vengeance was scrapped two years ago, in 2004. A sad end to a grand old ship.[/quote]
My apologies mate, missed your first post (that's what I get for letting the dog into the study and find a new playground!). Sorry if I stepped on any toes or wasted posting space.
Anyway, Vengeance was scrapped two years ago, in 2004. A sad end to a grand old ship.[/quote]
My apologies mate, missed your first post (that's what I get for letting the dog into the study and find a new playground!). Sorry if I stepped on any toes or wasted posting space.