Our 1942 MB Project "Jolly Rogers"

Forgotten Field · **Posted:** Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:11 pm

Second gear likes to wear out the synchronizer ring on a T-84. Look at that hard. The other thing to look at is bushings and shaft wear. Over the years the shafts start to look like a chewed bone. If you can put a straight edge on them and see light beneath the straight edge better than 1/16, it's time to replace the shaft.

DH82EH · **Posted:** Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:15 pm

Chris it sure is looking good :drink3:

I can picture you and your dad driving around the grass at Geneseo!

wouldn't that be the coolest?

I'll be coming down open cockpit. How about you? :lol:

Andy

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:56 pm

DH82EH wrote:

Chris it sure is looking good :drink3:

I can picture you and your dad driving around the grass at Geneseo!

wouldn't that be the coolest?

I'll be coming down open cockpit. How about you? :lol:

Andy

Don't laugh. We we're actually thinking about it. We just haven't been able to figure out where to put the propellor!!! :lol:

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:57 pm

Lookin' great Chris, but I wouldn't swap you for my '05 WRANGLER hardtop

Cherrybomber13 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:13 am

" We just haven't been able to figure out where to put the propellor!!! "

Chris,
I have a hat for you with a propellor...

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:38 am

My uncle, father, and I had a chance (and a break in the cold weather) to pull the Jeep outside and run her up. Well…. she turned over so quickly and easily we decided to take her for a spin around the compound and stretch her legs. Driving these things in some snow can sure be fun!

From us here, we'd like to wish you and yours a very MERRY CHRISTMAS!

DH82EH · **Posted:** Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:26 am

I just looked at Jim Beasleys thread about flying the Mk XVIII this time of year. I'll give you a very close second Chris :lol:

for having the most fun!

Looks like a riot!

Enjoy :drinkers:

Andy

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:56 pm

Update for you guys. Looking a lot more complete now.

Added:

Shovel
Axe
Hood Serial Number (The 38851 refers to the Jeep's actual serial, while the 0185 is from "Queen of Hearts" B-24)
90th BG Emblem
90th BG "Skull & Cross Bombs"
5th AF Emblem
Water Bucket
Door Safety Straps and Eye Bolts

Still need to fix that pesky Transmission.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:14 pm

Do your own tranny, three speed trannys are not complicated, parts are available and pretty cheap and it's a good Saturday garage project. With a bit of cross checking I'll bet there are several more modern, full syncro three speeds that will bolt up to the bell housing.
Just follow the instructions and read the diagrams-decades ago a buddy put himself through Community College rebuilding Chevy 3 speeds on the kitchen table 2 a day or so charging $45.00 each above parts cost.

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:29 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence. In all likely we'll be redoing it. It's just a matter of time.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:01 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:

Thanks for the vote of confidence. In all likely we'll be redoing it. It's just a matter of time.

Since it's a GPW (Ford) you'll probably find the gearbox is straight out of any prewar Ford car post Model 'A' and sourcing parts (and a spare one*) should be easy, pick up a copy of HEMMINGS MOTOR NEWS, looks like a tan phone book, at a news stand and start prowling the ads and making calls-just buy the one, the ads and advertisers don't change much.

*Old racing reasoning, if you've got a spare of everything, you'll never break anything, but-just forget one lousy washer at home...................

SaxMan · **Posted:** Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:02 pm

Looking good!

+1 on doing the tranny swap yourself.

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

The Inspector wrote:

Since it's a GPW (Ford) you'll probably find the gearbox is straight out of any prewar Ford car post Model 'A' and sourcing parts (and a spare one*) should be easy...

No, the transmissions and in fact most parts, were interchangeable between the MB and GPW outside of some very minor manufacturing details like casting marks (or bolt head markings).

There was nothing of Ford passenger car design on the Jeep- it was designed by Willys. Ford was a second source of production although they did build quite a few more than Willys did. All the parts in the supply line had to fit either model interchangeably at the detail (not the LRU) level.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:30 pm

bdk wrote:

The Inspector wrote:

Since it's a GPW (Ford) you'll probably find the gearbox is straight out of any prewar Ford car post Model 'A' and sourcing parts (and a spare one*) should be easy...

No, the transmissions and in fact most parts, were interchangeable between the MB and GPW outside of some very minor manufacturing details like casting marks (or bolt head markings).

There was nothing of Ford passenger car design on the Jeep- it was designed by Willys. Ford was a second source of production although they did build quite a few more than Willys did. All the parts in the supply line had to fit either model interchangeably at the detail (not the LRU) level.

The amount of assembly/parts interchangability in the automobile world is amazing (the running gear in your SPRIDGET goes back to the mid 50's Morris Minor). In 1951 the Lincoln automatic tranny plant (now home of the YAF) burned down so Lincoln sourced HYDRAMATICS from Oldsmobile, if you find a really nice mid 60's Pontiac Le Mans and if it has a three speed trans, it's probably a Ford unit, lots of Fords used Quadrajet 4v carbs early on in the smog era.The current Ford AOD automatics bellhousing bolt pattern allows you to screw an AOD 4 speed automatic to the back of a 50's 'Y' block Ford. Since the WILLYs AMERICAR used a very weak 4 cylinder engine, I'd imagine Henry put the squeeze on the WD and the Army to beef up the running gear, remember he's the guy who had enough financial/industrial might to tell the military to stick the MERLIN where the sun didn't shine because it was a 'furrin' deeesign' and he wouldn't build them.

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:36 pm

The Inspector wrote:

Remember he's the guy who had enough financial/industrial might to tell the military to stick the MERLIN where the sun didn't shine because it was a 'furrin' deeesign' and he wouldn't build them.

Not to mention he had a Ford plant IN GERMANY. Oddly enough it was the only plant not bombed during the war. Coincidence?

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