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Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:23 pm

wendovertom wrote:Don't forget there is a F7U-4 Cutlass out there that is at the 70% restored to flying condition! Now whether it would be wise to fly it is another issue - but if you were just relatively 'gently' taking off and landing on a runway vs a carrier landing it might not be so bad.

We had a 4 ship T-33 formation flight about 5 years ago in Wendover! Actually at the time we had 5 T-33s, MIG-15, a couple Strikemasters, a Fouga, Alpha jet, Vampire, Doc Sugden's Fury and a few L-29 and L-39s for the weekend as part of a CJAA jet blast!

Tom P.


That was the F7U-3/F7U-3M Cutlass Paul Allen had in Washington state I believe? Yes a problematic aircraft, but would be fantastic to see one fly!

Tom, I remember you mentioning that great jet blast with the T-33's and all the other jets. Would love to see a 4-ship T-33 formation one of these days. Hopefully we will have a great vintage jet gathering again one of these days. And as mentioned earlier, we don't want a gathering of mainly L-39's ( :( ) but a good representation of interesting jet warbirds like Sabres, Fury, MiG-15/17/21's, T-33's, Phantom, Super Sabre(s), Skyhawks, Hunters, etc.

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:02 pm

wendovertom wrote:Now whether it would be wise to fly it is another issue

Whether it was wise to fly it back in the '50s was an issue as well!
One more Cold War plane you might get - doesn't NASA still fly a B-57? Do they take it to airshows?

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:57 pm

Chris Brame wrote:doesn't NASA still fly a B-57? Do they take it to airshows?

NASA has three wildly-modified WB-57Es that they use for weather research. They literally don't even look like the bomber and recon B-57s from days of yore. I believe they're based in the Houston area. Anyone in southeast Texas reading this thread?

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:31 am

Yes, NASA flies at least one WB-57 out of Ellington. Every now and then we'll see it making racetracks in the sky and we joke that "they're spraying us again".
Tommy

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:29 pm

They're running 3 WB-57F's out of Ellington these days. Currently by their schedule only 926 is flying with #927 and #928 down for major maintenance and inspection or system upgrades. They do more than weather. You can dig around in the following link or links from that to see what they're up to or questions about public displays...
https://airbornescience.nasa.gov/aircraft/WB-57

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:28 am

That was the F7U-3/F7U-3M Cutlass Paul Allen had in Washington state I believe? Yes a problematic aircraft, but would be fantastic to see one fly!

Tom, I remember you mentioning that great jet blast with the T-33's and all the other jets. Would love to see a 4-ship T-33 formation one of these days. Hopefully we will have a great vintage jet gathering again one of these days. And as mentioned earlier, we don't want a gathering of mainly L-39's ( :( ) but a good representation of interesting jet warbirds like Sabres, Fury, MiG-15/17/21's, T-33's, Phantom, Super Sabre(s), Skyhawks, Hunters, etc.[/quote]


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We came close to a T-Bird four-ship a month ago...looks like there'll be enough T-33s and pilots to pull one off at Oshkosh this year, we'll see... 8)

Nathan, ignore the naysayers, keep dreaming and thinking big!

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:44 am

Alright Paul, that's enough info for me to get my sh*t together and get on back there this year. Just make sure you guys don't spend too much time over lake "whatever it's called" formating around. At least make a few passes over Wittman field so I can see what a four ship T-33 deal as all about :wink:

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:06 am

Mark Allen M wrote:Alright Paul, that's enough info for me to get my sh*t together and get on back there this year. Just make sure you guys don't spend too much time over lake "whatever it's called" formating around. At least make a few passes over Wittman field so I can see what a four ship T-33 deal as all about :wink:


Lake Winnebago, formed from Glacial Lake Oshkosh 12,000 years ago when an ice dam prevented water from draining into Lake Michigan via Green Bay and the glacial lake ponded. It was "discovered" by the French in 1634. The name "Winnebago" means "people of the dirty water", comes from a nickname the Algonquian tribe dubbed their Ho-Chunk tribe neighbors...in case you were wondering. I promise A-1 OSH area flying tour which necessarily includes Lake of the Dirty Water People.

Re: future of a jet warbird/cold war airshow

Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:24 pm

I don't know about you guys, but T-33s look good over the lake. :D Might have to click it to make the quality better. Imageshack likes making the image smaller.

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