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Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:44 pm

Whoa! Cool picture! I never knew they put anything other than a radial on the B-29 or B-50.


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Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:55 pm

Another very interesting thread.Thanks for posting,Mark.

Here are a few shots of an engine change on Tanker 66 (ex-United Airlines DC-7 N6353C) at Fort Wainwright (Fairbanks) in July 1933.

The Butler Aircraft mechanics just arrived from an eventful trip up the Alcan Highway

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It's always a problem finding a crane that's up to the job.Fortunately,Fairbanks is relatively well equipped with heavy equipment.

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Here's another angle.Finding an empty engine stand can also be a problem away from the home base.

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While I'm at it,here are a couple shots of some trouble-shooting on T&G's Tanker 115 (DC-7C) also at Fort Wainwright during the same time period.

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Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:21 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:More objects that make other objects turn real fast that in turn make bigger objects move to the point they lift off the ground.

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JRM-1 flying boat Marianas Mars pictured undergoing an engine change in the a hangar at Naval Air Station (NAS) Patuxent River, Maryland c 1946


Some more of the above but in color.

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Installing an engine at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas-2

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Women are trained to do precise and vital engine installation detail in Douglas Aircraft Company plants, Long Beach, Calif.

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The careful hands of women are trained in precise aircraft engine installation duties at Douglas Aircraft Company, Long Beach, Calif-3.


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The careful hands of women are trained in precise aircraft engine installation duties at Douglas Aircraft Company, Long Beach, Calif-2.

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The careful hands of women are trained in precise aircraft engine installation duties at Douglas Aircraft Company, Long Beach, Calif.

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Making wiring assemblies at a junction box on the fire wall for the right engine of a B-25 bomber

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Installing an engine at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas

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Installing an engine at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas (with a pissed off woman watching) lol

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Flexible performance of C-47 transport planes is due in part to their two 1,200 horsepower radial engines and to their three-blade variable-pitch propellers, Long Beach, Cali

The 'pissed off woman' (how is your misogyny aversion class coming along?) appears to be, based on her holding a mirror and flashlight, an Inspector (done that job, a bunch) and she is probably witnessing touques or another critical assembly point, and since she would be the first person the company and military would seek out if something went wrong, you can bet your patootie she's paying attention.

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:06 pm

Thx Larry, great stuff.

Bill sarcasm is usually one of my strong points :wink:

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:23 pm

Mark,
I love the pictures of the guys that kept them flying. How about posting pictures of sheetmetal guys. Keep up the great posts.

Randy Tait

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:07 am

Mark Allen M wrote:Thx Larry, great stuff.

Bill sarcasm is usually one of my strong points :wink:

I know, just having some lightweight fun witchaz! :wink:

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:41 am

lusc10 wrote:How about posting pictures of sheetmetal guys.


Here's a few.

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14 May 1943 Mechanics of the 322nd Bomb Sq, 91st BG begin repairs to the vertical fin of B-17F 42-3057 (coded LG-N) following the mission to Keil, Germany.


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SSgt. George R. Fierbaugh, Palestine, Wv, Looking Grimly Satisfied, Poses By His Finished Product -- An Anti-Mud Cover To Keep His Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress Ball Turret Window clean

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Sheet Metal Workers Patch The Underside Of A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress Wing At The 91St Bomb Group Base In Bassingbourne, England On 7 August 1943.

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Sheet Metal Workers Of The 480Th Service Sqdn, 59Th Service Group Repairing Flak Damage On The Wing Of A Boeing B-29

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Sheet Metal Wokers Repair Wing Of A Boeing B-29 Superfortress Which Was Hit During The First Bombing Mission Over Tokyo, Japan. Saipan, Marianas Islands. November 1944.


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Sheet Metal Shop Personnel Of The 478Th Air Service Squadron, Pose For The Photographer At An Air Base Somewhere In The South Pacific.

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Sheet Metal Shop Of The 27Th Air Depot Repair Group, 5Th Service Command At Port Moresby, New Guinea. 15 March 1943

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Sheet Metal Shop Of The 27Th Air Depot Repair Group, 5Th Service Command At Port Moresby, New Guinea. 15 March 1943.

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Sgt. Albert Osborne Of The 382Nd Air Service Group'S Sheet Metal Shop Patches The Flak Holes On The Nose Of A Curtiss C-46 Of The 4Th Combat Cargo Group At Chittagong, India.

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Men Learn Practical Work On Sheet Metal In A Classroom Of A U.S. Technical Training School In Warton, Lancaster, England, 1 April 1943.

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Men At Work In The Sheet Metal Shop Of The 353Rd Fighter Group At Their Base In England. 4 September 1944.

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General View Of The 27Th Air Depot Group Sheet Metal Shop, Showing The Men At Work. The Shop Was Located In Hangar #1 At The Port Moresby Air Depot, Papua, New Guinea.

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Engineers Rivet Piece Of Sheet Metal With Riveting Gun.

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Sheet Metal Workers Mend A Flak Punctured Rudder Of A Consolidated B-24 In England

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:41 pm

She does look pissed off! Nice thread Mark!

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:18 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:
lusc10 wrote:How about posting pictures of sheetmetal guys.


Here's a few.

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14 May 1943 Mechanics of the 322nd Bomb Sq, 91st BG begin repairs to the vertical fin of B-17F 42-3057 (coded LG-N) following the mission to Keil, Germany.


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SSgt. George R. Fierbaugh, Palestine, Wv, Looking Grimly Satisfied, Poses By His Finished Product -- An Anti-Mud Cover To Keep His Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress Ball Turret Window clean

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Sheet Metal Workers Patch The Underside Of A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress Wing At The 91St Bomb Group Base In Bassingbourne, England On 7 August 1943.

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Sheet Metal Workers Of The 480Th Service Sqdn, 59Th Service Group Repairing Flak Damage On The Wing Of A Boeing B-29

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Sheet Metal Wokers Repair Wing Of A Boeing B-29 Superfortress Which Was Hit During The First Bombing Mission Over Tokyo, Japan. Saipan, Marianas Islands. November 1944.


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Sheet Metal Shop Personnel Of The 478Th Air Service Squadron, Pose For The Photographer At An Air Base Somewhere In The South Pacific.

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Sheet Metal Shop Of The 27Th Air Depot Repair Group, 5Th Service Command At Port Moresby, New Guinea. 15 March 1943

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Sheet Metal Shop Of The 27Th Air Depot Repair Group, 5Th Service Command At Port Moresby, New Guinea. 15 March 1943.

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Sgt. Albert Osborne Of The 382Nd Air Service Group'S Sheet Metal Shop Patches The Flak Holes On The Nose Of A Curtiss C-46 Of The 4Th Combat Cargo Group At Chittagong, India.

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Men Learn Practical Work On Sheet Metal In A Classroom Of A U.S. Technical Training School In Warton, Lancaster, England, 1 April 1943.

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Men At Work In The Sheet Metal Shop Of The 353Rd Fighter Group At Their Base In England. 4 September 1944.

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General View Of The 27Th Air Depot Group Sheet Metal Shop, Showing The Men At Work. The Shop Was Located In Hangar #1 At The Port Moresby Air Depot, Papua, New Guinea.

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Engineers Rivet Piece Of Sheet Metal With Riveting Gun.

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Sheet Metal Workers Mend A Flak Punctured Rudder Of A Consolidated B-24 In England


The two guys doing the cowl repair is one scenario that always cracked me up. here's two guys looking like they are building the Golden Gate Bridge over a piece of metal thats the size of a page out of a newspaper.
I was taught to shoot by yourself until you ran out of reach, then get someone to help you do the last few fasteners.
I was always quicker riveting by myself, always trusted my bucker to do a good job, just as me being the bucker trusted my shooter. If I messed up, I wouldn't talk to myself for a week. :lol:
A colosssal waste of manpower to have two guys shooting and bucking on something the size of a sheet of paper.

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:08 am

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Mounting an engine on a B-29

Looks more like a B-50. That's clearly an R-4360

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:27 am

Airlift48 wrote:Image
Mounting an engine on a B-29

Looks more like a B-50. That's clearly an R-4360

See my post on page 1

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:06 pm

Nice site for you grease monkeys ... if you can handle a slight bit of language confusion, it's got some real neat stuff. And not to worry about opening the link, if it works fine for me, you shouldn't have a problem.

http://www.bredow-web.de/Triebwerke_und ... otore.html

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:01 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:Image
Del Valle Air Base, Photograph, January 6, 1943

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Del Valle Air Base became Bergstrom Air Force Base

Interesting to see those two C-48s, aka Douglas DST - Baugher shows two were surveyed at Del Valle; would these be ground-bound mechanics' trainers?
(42-)56099 c/n 1958 DST-A-207 ex United Air Lines NC18110. To USAAF Jun08, 1942 - Survey Del
Valle, TX. Mar 2, 1943
(42-)56610 c/n 3265 DST-A-207C ex United Air Lines NC33640. To USAAF Jun 08, 1942 - Survey Del
Valle, TX. Feb 22, 1943.

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:55 am

I'd say the sheet metal stuff needs its own thread. As this is an Engines .......... and more engines thread.

Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines ...

Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:11 pm

At the start of this photo essay, are the 1st and 3rd photos showing early cw3350"s with the forward cylinders exhaust pipes exiting to the front
and causing the overheating problem until they redesigned the heads to exit to the rear? I think I read somewhere that the 3350 uses the same cylinder as the 2600, just more of them.
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