Park Service to allow dives on the Lake Mead B-29 again...

[Warbirdnerd]

As early as this summer, divers could once again have the chance to explore the wreckage of a World War II-era bomber at the bottom of Lake Mead.

The National Park Service announced Thursday it will accept bids from dive companies interested in taking people on guided tours of the 66-year-old B-29 wreckage, which has been closed to divers since 2009.

Record low water levels have brought the sunken Superfortress within reach of recreational divers for the first time ever, and the aircraft will only get easier to reach as the reservoir continues to shrink.

According to the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration, the B-29 was one of the last built and was delivered to the U.S. Army eleven days after the end of World War II. Stripped of armaments, it became a post-war reconnaissance plane used in an upper atmospheric research program based at Muroc Army Airfield in California.

“Part of this research was focused on the development of a device that used the sun as a point of reference to guide missiles as they arched from the United States towards the Soviet Union,” NOAA said.

On July 21, 1948, the plane was being flown on a mission to test a secret missile guidance system. While descending over the smooth-as-glass lake, the pilot lost depth perception and flew the bomber into the water at 230 mph. It skipped once, settled onto the surface and sank. All five crew members survived, but the bomber was lost until August 2001, when a team of local divers discovered it sitting upright and mostly intact on the lake bottom.

In 2003, archaeologists from the Park Service’s Submerged Resources Center mapped and documented the wreck. Five years later, the Park Service awarded one-year permits to two companies — one from Lake Havasu City, Ariz., and the other from Ventura, Calif. — for guided technical dives at the site, then at a depth of roughly 160 feet. Technical dives exceed 130 feet in depth and require more training and equipment than more common and less hazardous recreational scuba dives at lesser depths.

Christie Vanover, spokeswoman for the Lake Mead National Recreation Area, said those first two permits were not renewed in 2009 because the companies struggled to turn a profit under the restrictions placed on them.

The Park Service is now offering what it hopes is a more enticing deal: a two-year, commercial-use permit allowing up to 100 divers a year at the B-29 wreck and unlimited scuba instruction and charter dives to other “submerged resources” in the Lake Mead National Recreation Area.

Vanover said the Park Service hopes to issue two of the permits by April and see visits to the B-29 resume by summer.

“We have had people express an interest over the years. We think this is the best option, and it provides a business opportunity,” she said. “We hope to see multiple applications.”

The wreckage now rests under roughly 110 feet of water in the Overton Arm, at the northern end of the lake. The Park Service won’t give the precise location or depth because the site is considered a “protected resource.”

Steve Schafer knows exactly where the bomber is. He has dived the site dozens of times, including as a guide back when the park was allowing properly trained and equipped tourists to make the trip in 2008.

Back then, Schafer said, it was “an intermediate technical dive” that allowed about 30-45 minutes at the bottom but required as much as an hour of decompression on the way back to the surface.

His most recent visit to the bomber came a year ago, when his company, Earth Resource Group, checked on the wreckage under a scientific permit.

He said the aircraft seems to have deteriorated somewhat over the past decade, going from a “gleaming wreck” to one now layered in silt and covered with invasive quagga mussels. “They’re on every metal surface,” Schafer said of the quaggas. “Those little buggers are just all over the place.”

But at 99 feet long with a wingspan of 140 feet, the aircraft is still an impressive sight. Schafer said the instruments are still visible through the wrecked cockpit windows, as are oxygen tanks, tool kits and an open parachute.

“It’s still a great wreck to see,” he said. “You definitely know it’s a B-29. It’s hard to miss.”

It’s not the only large aircraft at the bottom of the lake, either.

On Oct. 24, 1949, a civilian-owned PBY-5A Catalina flying boat crashed in the lake’s Boulder Basin while practicing water landings. Four of the five people on board were killed.

In 2007, the National Park Service revealed the location of the somewhat scattered wreckage, allowing people to dive there without a permit.

But recreational divers are still out of luck. Schafer said the aircraft is deeper than the B-29. Even with the lake at historic lows, it’s still more than 150 feet deep, requiring a technical dive.

Something else to remember, Vanover said: Both planes are considered archaeological sites — and the Catalina may still hold human remains — so removing anything from the wrecks is prohibited by federal law.

Permit applications for B-29 tour operators are available online at http://www.nps.gov/lake/parknews/b-29-permit.htm. The deadline to apply is 4 p.m. on Jan. 23.

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[DoraNineFan]

Still an extremely short-sighted view by the Park Service.

As they said, they are using dive companies for an advanced technical dive which means that very few people other than serious advanced divers will ever see it. It's not something for a snorkeling day trip.

The depth is now 160 feet, which if I recall is down from 300 feet. The drought conditions out there have been very severe.

There is no better time to raise this wreck than now while the water is low. It will always be a water pollution risk unless they pump out the fuel and oil.

More people could appreciate the history of the plane if it was fished out.

[tom d. friedman]

amen!! how many warbirders / aviation buffs are going to be ripped off?? the drought water level is like a bone being thrown to a dog. fresh water, dark, i'm sure it's in great shape. another opportunity to raise it slips through the cracks.

[Mark Allen M]

Although I'm in agreement as a "Warbird enthusiast" to an arguably lost opportunity on our behalf. I'm also a recreational diver and I would certainly figure that 'divers' outnumber 'old airplane lovers' significantly. (BTW there's more people who have dove, and want to dive, on that B-29 than you would think) Last I recall there were several thousands of thousands worldwide. There is a large market in 'holiday divers' as well who train and dive while on holiday, but rarely dive close to home and these folks, along with the more serious diving groups, make up quite a large income target that I'm sure the Park Service leadership has always had an eye on when thinking of the B-29's future. Until that B-29 dissolves away, there will always be revenue to be had by the Parks Service. You take the plane out of the water? that potential income dissolves away as well. Sounds like simple good business 101. Now just what diving traffic Lake Mead gets as far as people diving on their B-29 is uncertain to me. Maybe it's so little that it wouldn't make much of an effect on their revenue collected anyway. Maybe it is a better idea to bring the plane up and display it somewhere, but who would do it and where would it be displayed and what effort would be necessary to preserve it properly? Big job and lots of money to be spent ... of which the Park Service would be contributing nothing I'm sure.


Sorry for sounding like the 'enemy' ...

[DoraNineFan]

Although I'm in agreement as a "Warbird enthusiast" to an arguably lost opportunity on our behalf. I'm also a recreational diver and I would certainly figure that 'divers' outnumber 'old airplane lovers' significantly. (BTW there's more people who have dove, and want to dive, on that B-29 than you would think) Last I recall there were several thousands of thousands worldwide. There is a large market in 'holiday divers' as well who train and dive while on holiday, but rarely dive close to home and these folks, along with the more serious diving groups, make up quite a large income target that I'm sure the Park Service leadership has always had an eye on when thinking of the B-29's future. Until that B-29 dissolves away, there will always be revenue to be had by the Parks Service. You take the plane out of the water? that potential income dissolves away as well. Sounds like simple good business 101. Now just what diving traffic Lake Mead gets as far as people diving on their B-29 is uncertain to me. Maybe it's so little that it wouldn't make much of an effect on their revenue collected anyway. Maybe it is a better idea to bring the plane up and display it somewhere, but who would do it and where would it be displayed and what effort would be necessary to preserve it properly? Big job and lots of money to be spent ... of which the Park Service would be contributing nothing I'm sure.


Sorry for sounding like the 'enemy' ...

Surely the revenue is less than a potential taxpayer cleanup of a major West Coast water supply if there is ever a major release of fuel or oil.

[Pat Carry]

Bring it up and do what with it? B-29's on outside display rite now are deteriorating at a faster rate that this one. I'm just saying.........

[Mark Allen M]

Surely the revenue is less than a potential taxpayer cleanup of a major West Coast water supply if there is ever a major release of fuel or oil.

Unfortunately sound logic seems to evade most State and Federal agencies consistently and many Gov. agencies have it down to a science how to blame the taxpayer for errors in policy.

[sandiego89]

Bring it up and do what with it? B-29's on outside display rite now are deteriorating at a faster rate that this one. I'm just saying.........

Amen!- some of those need to get under cover pronto. The ones outside in California and Utah that I have seen seem OK to fair, but others in harsher climates are really suffering.

Looks like about half the survivors are outside. A quick look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_su ... fortresses
http://johnweeks.com/b29/index.html

So we have @11 inside in museums (or Fifi and DOC with hangers) and @12 outside, plus a few partials or hulks.

[kalamazookid]

Bring it up and do what with it? B-29's on outside display rite now are deteriorating at a faster rate that this one. I'm just saying.........

This is exactly what goes through my mind whenever anyone laments the inaccessibility of a wreck for recovery. I guess it's easier to dream on the possibilities of a new recovery than it is to take care of what we already have.

[sandiego89]

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Surely the revenue is less than a potential taxpayer cleanup of a major West Coast water supply if there is ever a major release of fuel or oil.[/quote]

I do oil spill response for a living, and I would not think any remaining 70 year old avgas and lube oil would be "major" threat to a @10 MILLION acre feet reseivoir (at recent reduced levels) even if it is drinking water. Dissapation does wonders, and water is treated before you drink it. Likely much more oil and gas goes into the lake per month from boaters, fueling, vehicles on the boat ramps, runoff etc. than the B-29 could ever cause in its lifetime. If you really wanted to tap the tanks to reduce the threat it could be done, but likely best to leave her be from an environmental standpoint.

[DoraNineFan]

Bring it up and do what with it? B-29's on outside display rite now are deteriorating at a faster rate that this one. I'm just saying.........

This is exactly what goes through my mind whenever anyone laments the inaccessibility of a wreck for recovery. I guess it's easier to dream on the possibilities of a new recovery than it is to take care of what we already have.

I'll lament that it would be recovered by a party with the means to put it indoors.

Outdoor display should not be a consideration for any of the rarer types.

[tom d. friedman]

take a good look at the photo........... look mom!!! no zebra mussels!! it's a travesty to have that bird down their. a salvor could make preventative measures with spill booms, so it wouldn't be that hazardous if fluids / av gas leaks occur when coming to the surface. w/ no mussels it will be alot less heavy to raise as well.

[JohnB]

I wonder what their policy would be if it was say, a carriage owned by Lincoln, a historic locomotive or a pirate ship?

My point is there is probably some dissent in allowing it to be raised because it's a military aircraft of a rather infamous (in their eyes) type.
Having worked for the department of the Interior, I can attest that most higher-ups are anti-war/military/nuclear types.

[camshaw]

dont be fooled, the zebra mussles will have it completely covered in probably 4 more years as the water reseeds and the climate gets hotter the water gets shallower and those airplane eaters will make a mess of it for sure!...they are everywhere now in lake mead, it sucks..wonder if there are any 50 cal brownings still attached? any ideas if it had guns?

[Steve Nelson]

The article mentions it was stripped of armament and outfitted for recon/weather/research use. Are the mussels a recent arrival in the lake, or are the dropping water level and increased temperatures just making them more pervasive?

SN